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Talk:Keen GBC Versions

2007-02-26T17:13:33Z

Djaser:

There is no need for this article and it should be deleted.[[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 17:13, 26 February 2007 (GMT)

Dopefish

2007-02-04T16:20:23Z

Djaser: /* Appearance in Keen GBC */

[[Image:Dopefish.png|frame|The Dopefish in [[Keen 4]]]]

[[Image:Dopefish_face.png|left]]

Probably the most well-known creature in all of the Commander Keen universe, the [[Dopefish]] has spawned a cult following and made numerous appearances in many other games. For a full list of guest appearances, visit the Dopefish's homepage - http://www.dopefish.com

The only level in Commander Keen that the Dopefish appears in is the [[Well of Wishes]], the underwater level in [[Keen 4]].

The in-game helptext states that the Dopefish won't mess with a [[Sprite]], however it is possible to lure a Dopefish into contact with a Sprite - unfortunately, nothing happens - the Sprite will fire at Keen, but its shots are harmless to the Dopefish.

The official help text says of the Dopefish:

{{Box|The second-dumbest creature in the universe, this creature's thought patterns go "swim swim hungry, swim swim hungry." They'll eat anything alive and moving near them, though they prefer heroes.}}

This is a reference to Douglas Adams' ''Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' which describes the dumbest creature in the universe as the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. The name 'Dopefish' is of course a combination of 'Dope' and 'Fish' and has nothing to do with drugs.

=== Appearance in Keen GBC ===

<center>[[Image:Dopefish.gif]]</center>

The Dopefish appears in [[Keen GBC]] as decoration on some tiles and as a real enemy. The tile art was directly taken over from the [[Keen 4]] sprite. The new enemy version looks a lot like the firs one and can be found in [[Blooglet Lake]] on [Fribbulus Xax]]. In contradiction to Keen 4 te Dopefish is now much smaller and more fragile, being easily defeatable when they are out of water. They spend their time jumping in and out of the water, hoping to snap up [[Keen]].

See also [[Schoolfish]].

== External links ==

http://www.dopefish.com - The official Dopefish homepage

[[Category:Keen 4 enemies]]
[[Category:Invincible creatures]]
[[Category:Enemies]]

Nospike

2007-02-03T19:34:59Z

Djaser:

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[[Image:Nospike-ingame.png|frame|A [[Nospike]] chasing Keen]]

[[Image:Nospike.png|left]]

[[Nospike]] are blue, armless creatures found on [[Fribbulus Xax]]. They have short and stubby legs which are nonetheless quite powerful, allowing them to charge at speed, which they often do, without warning. [[Nospike]] are named for the large horn or spike on the middle of their faces. (This was said to be their nose, but it is not, since they cannot smell.) The name is a contraction of ''nose'' and ''spike''.

[[Nospike]] are hostile creatures that prey on larger species by impaling them on their horns. They can become so engrossed about charging that they will even run straight off a cliff, plummeting to their end below if their prey does as little as jumps or steps aside during their charge.

=== Appearance in Keen GBC ===

[[Image:Nospike.gif|left]]Nospike also appear in [[Keen GBC]], acting almost identically to their Keen 6 counterparts.

[[Category:Keen 6 enemies]]
[[Category:Enemies]]

Nospike

2007-02-03T19:34:18Z

Djaser:

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[[Image:Nospike-ingame.png|frame|A [[Nospike]] chasing Keen]]

[[Image:Nospike.png|left]]

[[Nospike]] are blue, armless creatures found on [[Fribbulus Xax]]. They have short and stubby legs which are nonetheless quite powerful, allowing them to charge at speed, which they often do, without warning. [[Nospike]] are named for the large horn or spike on the middle of their faces. (This was said to be their nose, but it is not, since they cannot smell.) The name is a contraction of ''nose'' and ''spike''.

[[Nospike]] are hostile creatures that prey on larger species by impaling them on their horns. They can become so engrossed about charging that they will even run straight off a cliff, plummeting to their end below if their prey does as little as jumps or steps aside during their charge.

[[Image:Nospike.gif|left]]=== Appearance in Keen GBC ===

Nospike also appear in [[Keen GBC]], acting almost identically to their Keen 6 counterparts.

[[Category:Keen 6 enemies]]
[[Category:Enemies]]

Mortimer McMire

2007-02-02T11:28:08Z

Djaser:

'''Mortimer McMire''', also known as '''The Grand Intellect''' (and to his annoyance, also as the '''Gannalech'''), is [[Commander Keen]]'s ultimate nemesis, an evil prodigy with the IQ of 315 who won't rest until he has destroyed the whole Universe.

[[Image:Mort_helmet.png|frame|Mortimer's helmet, as seen in Keen 5 -- but not spotted by Keen himself!]]

==Mortimer's plotting==
At first Keen had no idea that Mortimer was plotting something -- not until he discovered the Vorticons actually weren't hostile but were brain-controlled by Mortimer McMire. By destroying the [[Mangling Machine]] Keen believed he had got rid of Mortimer. Later, he was listening to his [[Photachyon Transceiver]] and picked up a distorted signal; he managed to hear about something [[Shikadi]] planning to destroy the Galaxy, and quickly set off to [[Gnosticus IV]] to learn more about them. Gannalech was also mentioned in the message, but seemingly Keen paid not much attention to the name. Later he stops the Shikadi's plan and finds a message on [[Omegamatic]], [[The Mortimer Letter]]. In the letter it's revealed that Keen didn't in fact destroy Mortimer, Mangling Machine was only operated by an [[Android Dummy|android dummy]], and that Mortimer was behind the whole Shikadi plot (and 'Gannalech' is what the Shikadi called him) it was to deceive Keen from Mortimer's one true goal: he's going to blow up the whole Universe, not only Galaxy -- however, Keen, for reasons unknown, decided to decipher the message later, and as it seems, he forgot all about it. Later he has to save his baby-sitter from the [[Bloog|bloogs]], and he gets to hear that Mortimer is alive and well, and planning to destroy the entire Universe. Getting to know that Keen is shocked, as he had thought Mortimer had died in the Mangling Machine (so it really seems he hadn't read the letter). Not until this point Keen realizes that Mortimer is still alive and he won't rest until the Universe is toast.

Keen was to confront Mortimer in the final battle for the Universe, but that never happened as [[The Universe Is Toast]] was iced. However, it still may happen one day.

==Personality==
Mortimer believes himself to be the highest intelligence ever and has decided that nothing else deserves to live. His ultimate goal is to destroy everything because everything is so stupid. It's not known how he's going to survive if he destroys the whole Universe, or is he even wanting to survive or just end it all and himself along with it.

== Appearances ==
* [[Keen 2]] - referred to
* [[Keen 3]] - as the end boss
* [[Keen 5]] - hinted to with a [[SGA]] letter and his helmet
* [[Keen 6]] - Mentioned by sister
* [[Keen GBC]] - Various appearances

==See also==
* [[The McMire Family]]
* [[Android Dummy]]
* [[Mangling Machine]]
* [[The Universe Is Toast]]

[[Category:Human and humanlike beings]]
[[Category:Keeniverse]]

Talk:Patchwork Mod I

2007-01-30T18:03:52Z

Djaser:

Should we use links to each user's history wiki page (i.e. "Djaser") instead of linking them to their personal wiki pages (i.e. "User:Djaser")? It might provide more objective information on them.--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 01:11, 28 January 2007 (EST)

Just wanted to point out that I didn't contribute anything to the first patchworkd mod, unfortunately. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 18:03, 30 January 2007 (GMT)

Patchwork Mod I

2007-01-30T18:02:28Z

Djaser: /* Contributors */

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[[Image:Title_PatchworkMod1.png|thumb|320px|"Patchwork Mod I" title screen.]]

The '''Patchwork Mod Mark I''' is the first episode of a trilogy of mods that feature graphics and levels created by different members of the Keen Community, all put together by [[Levellord]]. The mod was beta tested by [[KeenRush]] who also had to fix the bugs he found. This first episode uses the [[Keen 1]] engine.

== Contributors ==

The contributors listed in the game data files are:

* Andrew Durdin
* [[User:KeenRush|KeenRush]]
* Ilsoap
* UnFleexable
* RocketJess
* NobrAiner
* MiscGuy49
* B-W-B
* Comocorde
* Borbola Balbzs
* Ront
* et al.

== External links ==

* [http://dosclassics.com/download/113 Download 'Patchwork Mod']

[[Category:Mods]]
[[Category:Keen 1 mods]]

Vorticon VI

2007-01-30T18:00:55Z

Djaser:

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[[Image:Ck3lv80.png|thumb|[[Vorticon VI]] in [[Keen 3]]]]

Vorticon VI is the place where [[Keen 3]] takes place. The planet is presumably named after their largest group of inhabitants the [[Vorticons]]. It's not vica versa because otherwise the Vorticons should have been called the Vorticon VI's or Vorticons VI. The 'VI' indicates that there must be at least five other planets called Vorticon but nothing is known about them. It's likely that this is the sixth planet Vorticons lived one due to their habit to colonize other planets like Mars. In that case we might expect a large Vorticon community close to our home in the future.

== Levels ==


* Level 1: [[Vortiville]]
* Level 2: [[Lower Vortiville]]
* Level 3: [[West Vortiville]]
* Level 4: [[Valden Park]] (technically '''Vortiville''', but there's already a level by that name)
* Level 5: [[New Vorticon]]
* Level 6: [[The Bonks]]
* Level 7: [[Beens]]
* Level 8: [[Val's Kitchen]]
* Level 9: [[Fort Vorticon]]
* Level 10: [[Fort Cavort]]
* Level 11: [[Fort Vorta Bella]]
* Level 12: No name given (proposed: '''Fort Vox''' from the Keencyclopaedia)
* Level 13: No name given (proposed: '''Keen 3 Secret Level''')
* Level 14: [[Cape Canavorta]]
* Level 15: No name given (proposed: '''Caves of Oblivion''' from the Keencyclopaedia)
* Level 16: No name given (proposed: [[The Manging Machine]] - note [[Mangling Machine]] already exists, perhaps link there?)

[[Category:Planets]]
[[Category:Keen 3]]

Vorticons

2007-01-30T17:54:41Z

Djaser:

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[[Image:Vorticon-ingame.png|thumb|A [[Vorticon Guard]] in [[Keen 1]]]]

[[Image:Vorticon.png|left]]

[[Vorticons]] are a peace-loving race that have been enslaved by the [[Gannalech]]. There are several kind of Vorticons. Some of them are more difficult to stun than others, and all of them don't kill Keen when touched.

It seems Vorticons have spread to different areas in space. Many still live on the home planet of the race, [[Vorticon VI]], which still seems to be somekind of central for them. Vorticons have an outpost in [[Mars]], and Keen confronted them there for the first time. In [[Keen 2]], a [[Vorticon Mothership]] looms above the Earth, ready to wipe out eight famous cities from the map. Aboard the ship Keen meets Vorticons he hasn't seen before and later on Vorticon VI, in [[Keen 3]], he encounters even more. Although Vorticons harm Keen in the game they are not evil because their mind is controlled by the [[Grand Intellect]]. In fact Vorticons are family loving creatures who live in a society much similar to the human one.

Several vorticons can be seen in the first trilogy:

Keen 1:
* [[Vorticon Guard]]

Keen 2:
* [[Vorticon Commander]]
* [[Vorticon Grunt (yellow)]]
* [[Vortikid]]

Keen 3:
* [[Vorticon Elder]]
* [[Vorticon Elite]]
* [[Vorticon Grunt (red)]]
* [[Vortikid]]
* [[Vortiking]]
* [[Vortimom]]
* [[Vortininja]]
* [[Vortipress]]

[[Category:Races]]
[[Category:Keen 1]]
[[Category:Keen 2]]
[[Category:Keen 3]]
[[Category:Vorticons]]

Vorticons

2007-01-30T17:48:25Z

Djaser:

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[[Image:Vorticon-ingame.png|thumb|A [[Vorticon Guard]] in [[Keen 1]]]]

[[Image:Vorticon.png|left]]

[[Vorticons]] are a peace-loving race that have been enslaved by the [[Gannalech]]. There are several kind of Vorticons. Some of them are more difficult to stun than others, and all of them don't kill Keen when touched.

It seems Vorticons have spread to different areas in space. Many still live on the home planet of the race, [[Vorticon VI]], which still seems to be somekind of central for them. Vorticons have an outpost in [[Mars]], and Keen confronted them there for the first time. In [[Keen 2]], a [[Vorticon Mothership]] looms above the Earth, ready to wipe out eight famous cities from the map. Aboard the ship Keen meets Vorticons he hasn't seen before and later on Vorticon VI, in [[Keen 3]], he encounters even more. Although Vorticons harm Keen in the game they are not evil because their mind is controlled by the [[Grand Intellect]].

Several vorticons can be seen in the first trilogy:

Keen 1:
* [[Vorticon Guard]]

Keen 2:
* [[Vorticon Commander]]
* [[Vorticon Grunt (yellow)]]
* [[Vortikid]]

Keen 3:
* [[Vorticon Elder]]
* [[Vorticon Elite]]
* [[Vorticon Grunt (red)]]
* [[Vortikid]]
* [[Vortiking]]
* [[Vortimom]]
* [[Vortininja]]
* [[Vortipress]]

[[Category:Races]]
[[Category:Keen 1]]
[[Category:Keen 2]]
[[Category:Keen 3]]
[[Category:Vorticons]]

Vorticon VI

2007-01-30T17:46:25Z

Djaser:

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[[Image:Ck3lv80.png|thumb|[[Vorticon VI]] in [[Keen 3]]]]

[[Vorticon VI]] is the home planet of the [[Vorticons]] and the setting for [[Keen 3]]. The 'VI' indicates that there must be at least five other planets called Vorticon but nothing is known about them.

== Levels ==


* Level 1: [[Vortiville]]
* Level 2: [[Lower Vortiville]]
* Level 3: [[West Vortiville]]
* Level 4: [[Valden Park]] (technically '''Vortiville''', but there's already a level by that name)
* Level 5: [[New Vorticon]]
* Level 6: [[The Bonks]]
* Level 7: [[Beens]]
* Level 8: [[Val's Kitchen]]
* Level 9: [[Fort Vorticon]]
* Level 10: [[Fort Cavort]]
* Level 11: [[Fort Vorta Bella]]
* Level 12: No name given (proposed: '''Fort Vox''' from the Keencyclopaedia)
* Level 13: No name given (proposed: '''Keen 3 Secret Level''')
* Level 14: [[Cape Canavorta]]
* Level 15: No name given (proposed: '''Caves of Oblivion''' from the Keencyclopaedia)
* Level 16: No name given (proposed: [[The Manging Machine]] - note [[Mangling Machine]] already exists, perhaps link there?)

[[Category:Planets]]
[[Category:Keen 3]]

The Four Golden Crystals

2007-01-30T15:43:52Z

Djaser:

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[[Image:Gc1.gif|frame|'The Four Golden Crystals' title screen.]]

[[The Four Golden Crystals]], also known as '''Commander Keen in the Cartoon Realm''', is a [[Keen 1]] mod produced by [[Unfleexable]]. Although all levels are there and it's possible to complete the game, the creator said he didn't consider it as finished. The mod suffers from it's poor level editing and isn't much fun to play.

== External links ==

* [http://dosclassics.com/download/4 Download 'The Four Golden Crystals']

[[Category:Keen 1 mods]]
[[Category:Mods]]

User talk:Malvineous

2007-01-29T20:48:51Z

Djaser: /* Vortiking and Vortipress */

== GBC episode? ==

Hey Malvenineous, you forgot (I hope) to create a GBC Keen section. Will you still be making one? [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 19:30, 26 January 2007 (EST)

:I'm not sure - given that Tom Hall wasn't fond of the GBC edition and it's not true "classic Keen" I personally won't be creating a section for it, so it depends on what the rest of the community wants. I might post a poll about it on the PCKF, to see what everyone thinks. Thanks for the idea. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 19:36, 26 January 2007 (EST)

::But it still is Keen and part of it's history. Even the old Keen encyclopaedia had GBC Keen included. I don't see the point in giving all the Keen mods an own article but totally ignoring an official game. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 20:01, 26 January 2007 (EST)

:::It depends on your definition of "official" I guess. Tom Hall was the designer behind Keen, he was the one that came up with all the ideas that are being documented in this wiki, so you could always say the GBC version was unofficial from Tom's point of view. At any rate I've [http://p072.ezboard.com/fpubliccommanderkeenforumfrm8.showMessage?topicID=306.topic posted a poll about this on the PCKF] and whatever the outcome is of that will be the "policy" this wiki will adopt. You'll have to persuade the community over there if you want GBC included in the wiki! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 20:07, 26 January 2007 (EST)

== Vortiking and Vortipress ==

I think that the [[Vortiking]] and [[Vortipress]] articles should be removed due to being unimportant and having conjectural names. [[User:Allstories]]

:That's a fair point, but they are characters that feature in the storyline (and someone writing a fanfiction may include those characters since they featured in the official games, even if they were only minor.) Maybe the pages should be more prominantly flagged as having unofficial names? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:: I second Malv's opinion. Just leave a small piece of text saying "NOTE: These names cannot be proved to be official because of this and that".--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:40, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::Yeah, I think those should be kept, I think this wiki should have info about everything seen in the Keen games -- and when I created the articles I mentioned right from the start that they aren't official names but could be suitable names as they're named in fashion of Vortimom and Vortikid and so on. --[[User:KeenRush|KeenRush]] 11:37, 28 January 2007 (GMT)

::::They should be linked to on the main Vorticon past, I just did that. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 10:45, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

:::::Main Vorticon page, you mean (I guess)? Anyways, I linked them there when I created them, in case they weren't there seems someone had removed them at some point. --[[User:KeenRush|KeenRush]] 17:12, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

::::::Ok, anyway this kind of discussing should really take place where it belongs, namely here[[Talk:Vortiking]] and [[Talk:Vortipress]]

== Spoiler template ==

I think we are needing a Spoiler template (like the one used in Wikipedia. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:21, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:Agreed, I'll set up a spoiler template now and let you know when it's ready. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::I've created [[:Template:Spoiler]] now, see [[Inchworm]] for an example. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 12:10, 28 January 2007 (EST)

== Links to dedicated Keener pages ==

Also, would it be possible to use links to formal pages about every Keener instead of redirecting to a not-so-formal Userpage, for exxample [[Ceilick (Keener)]] instead of [[user:Ceilick]]?? Ah, forgot to sign --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:21, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:Would that really be necessary? What would you put on the official page that you couldn't put on the userpage? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::In my user page I'd put "I'm the Shadow Master, I live in blahblah de blah." In my official page I'd put "Ignacio R. Morelle, also known in the Keen community as the Shadow Master, joined in September 2006 and has produced several mods, etc. etc. etc.". Not very formal the user page I think. Just look at Djaser's. Does it tell useful information for a link? Or no link to user info at all, or a link to a more formal user info page, in my opinion. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:34, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::Hmmm, I still think you could put all that formal info on your userpage (and there's nothing stopping you from editing someone else's userpage.) I'm a little reluctant to have *two* pages for everyone in the wiki. Although I suppose for those people who don't have wiki accounts... Okay, go ahead and make a page like [[Ceilick (Keener)]] and add it to [[:Category:Keeners|<nowiki>[[Category:Keeners]]</nowiki>]]. Also put a link to their userpage on it if they've got an account (even if their userpage is currently empty.) We'll need to have some sort of policy on this though - you must have created a mod, utility or something of use to the Keen community before you get a dedicated Keener page like this. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:49, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::::Perhaps I'll wait to see how many users register in here till the third week of next month. I'll then start linkifying to regular pages for those who don't have an account but have contributed a lot (i.e. Andrew Durdin). But I'll start linkifying to user pages for those who have already registered now, even if they have not contributed outside of this wiki, they deserve a link in my opinion if they are contributing to the wiki--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:53, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::::You should probably keep it uniform - either always link to user pages or always link to dedicated pages. Actually I'm warming to the idea of having dedicated pages, because you could always use an infobox (like on the [[Garg]] page) which could contain standard info like PCKF usernames, number of mods or tools released, etc. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:59, 28 January 2007 (EST)

== Double pages ==
Tell me, is it really necessary to have three pages that cover more less the same subject: [[Keen1_Creatures]], [[:Category:Keen 1 enemies]], [[:Category:Keen 1 creatures]]. The second and third example are not linked to on the main page anyway.... [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 12:21, 29 January 2007 (GMT)
:The first page, [[Keen1_Creatures]] is an article with a pictorial summary that lists all the creatures and enemies with a picture of them. This is the "official page." The second two are simply categories for organising pages, and aren't really pages themselves at all. If you go into the Keen 1 category ([[:Category:Keen 1]]) you will see the pages linked there. I agree there is some duplication, but the category pages have the advantage of structuring the individual creature pages - but they can't have pictures attached to them, hence the original page. Don't think of the category pages as articles, think of them as folders or directories holding the "files" that are the actual articles. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 12:28, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

Talk:Butler Robot

2007-01-29T20:48:22Z

Djaser:

In my Keen 1 version the bulter robot doesn't hurt Keen.

User talk:Malvineous

2007-01-29T20:47:15Z

Djaser: /* Vortiking and Vortipress */

== GBC episode? ==

Hey Malvenineous, you forgot (I hope) to create a GBC Keen section. Will you still be making one? [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 19:30, 26 January 2007 (EST)

:I'm not sure - given that Tom Hall wasn't fond of the GBC edition and it's not true "classic Keen" I personally won't be creating a section for it, so it depends on what the rest of the community wants. I might post a poll about it on the PCKF, to see what everyone thinks. Thanks for the idea. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 19:36, 26 January 2007 (EST)

::But it still is Keen and part of it's history. Even the old Keen encyclopaedia had GBC Keen included. I don't see the point in giving all the Keen mods an own article but totally ignoring an official game. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 20:01, 26 January 2007 (EST)

:::It depends on your definition of "official" I guess. Tom Hall was the designer behind Keen, he was the one that came up with all the ideas that are being documented in this wiki, so you could always say the GBC version was unofficial from Tom's point of view. At any rate I've [http://p072.ezboard.com/fpubliccommanderkeenforumfrm8.showMessage?topicID=306.topic posted a poll about this on the PCKF] and whatever the outcome is of that will be the "policy" this wiki will adopt. You'll have to persuade the community over there if you want GBC included in the wiki! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 20:07, 26 January 2007 (EST)

== Vortiking and Vortipress ==

I think that the [[Vortiking]] and [[Vortipress]] articles should be removed due to being unimportant and having conjectural names. [[User:Allstories]]

:That's a fair point, but they are characters that feature in the storyline (and someone writing a fanfiction may include those characters since they featured in the official games, even if they were only minor.) Maybe the pages should be more prominantly flagged as having unofficial names? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:: I second Malv's opinion. Just leave a small piece of text saying "NOTE: These names cannot be proved to be official because of this and that".--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:40, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::Yeah, I think those should be kept, I think this wiki should have info about everything seen in the Keen games -- and when I created the articles I mentioned right from the start that they aren't official names but could be suitable names as they're named in fashion of Vortimom and Vortikid and so on. --[[User:KeenRush|KeenRush]] 11:37, 28 January 2007 (GMT)

::::They should be linked to on the main Vorticon past, I just did that. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 10:45, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

:::::Main Vorticon page, you mean (I guess)? Anyways, I linked them there when I created them, in case they weren't there seems someone had removed them at some point. --[[User:KeenRush|KeenRush]] 17:12, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

::::::Ok, anyway this kind of discussing should really take place where it belongs, namely here[[Editing Talk:Vortiking]] and [[Editing Talk:Vortipress]]

== Spoiler template ==

I think we are needing a Spoiler template (like the one used in Wikipedia. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:21, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:Agreed, I'll set up a spoiler template now and let you know when it's ready. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::I've created [[:Template:Spoiler]] now, see [[Inchworm]] for an example. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 12:10, 28 January 2007 (EST)

== Links to dedicated Keener pages ==

Also, would it be possible to use links to formal pages about every Keener instead of redirecting to a not-so-formal Userpage, for exxample [[Ceilick (Keener)]] instead of [[user:Ceilick]]?? Ah, forgot to sign --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:21, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:Would that really be necessary? What would you put on the official page that you couldn't put on the userpage? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::In my user page I'd put "I'm the Shadow Master, I live in blahblah de blah." In my official page I'd put "Ignacio R. Morelle, also known in the Keen community as the Shadow Master, joined in September 2006 and has produced several mods, etc. etc. etc.". Not very formal the user page I think. Just look at Djaser's. Does it tell useful information for a link? Or no link to user info at all, or a link to a more formal user info page, in my opinion. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:34, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::Hmmm, I still think you could put all that formal info on your userpage (and there's nothing stopping you from editing someone else's userpage.) I'm a little reluctant to have *two* pages for everyone in the wiki. Although I suppose for those people who don't have wiki accounts... Okay, go ahead and make a page like [[Ceilick (Keener)]] and add it to [[:Category:Keeners|<nowiki>[[Category:Keeners]]</nowiki>]]. Also put a link to their userpage on it if they've got an account (even if their userpage is currently empty.) We'll need to have some sort of policy on this though - you must have created a mod, utility or something of use to the Keen community before you get a dedicated Keener page like this. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:49, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::::Perhaps I'll wait to see how many users register in here till the third week of next month. I'll then start linkifying to regular pages for those who don't have an account but have contributed a lot (i.e. Andrew Durdin). But I'll start linkifying to user pages for those who have already registered now, even if they have not contributed outside of this wiki, they deserve a link in my opinion if they are contributing to the wiki--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:53, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::::You should probably keep it uniform - either always link to user pages or always link to dedicated pages. Actually I'm warming to the idea of having dedicated pages, because you could always use an infobox (like on the [[Garg]] page) which could contain standard info like PCKF usernames, number of mods or tools released, etc. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:59, 28 January 2007 (EST)

== Double pages ==
Tell me, is it really necessary to have three pages that cover more less the same subject: [[Keen1_Creatures]], [[:Category:Keen 1 enemies]], [[:Category:Keen 1 creatures]]. The second and third example are not linked to on the main page anyway.... [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 12:21, 29 January 2007 (GMT)
:The first page, [[Keen1_Creatures]] is an article with a pictorial summary that lists all the creatures and enemies with a picture of them. This is the "official page." The second two are simply categories for organising pages, and aren't really pages themselves at all. If you go into the Keen 1 category ([[:Category:Keen 1]]) you will see the pages linked there. I agree there is some duplication, but the category pages have the advantage of structuring the individual creature pages - but they can't have pictures attached to them, hence the original page. Don't think of the category pages as articles, think of them as folders or directories holding the "files" that are the actual articles. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 12:28, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

Vorticon Mods

2007-01-29T12:33:53Z

Djaser:

This is an alphabetical list of all Keen: Vorticons mods, one-level mods and level packs ever made for Keen. It also includes some in-progress mods.

=== Keen1 Mods ===

[[Alien vs. Keen]] by DivoKeen, Levellord and others

[[Bad Dreams]] by LevelLord

[[Bazooka Wowbagger]] by Paperface

[[The Adventures of Bunny Basher|Bunny Basher, The Adventures of]] by Benvolio

[[Christmas Special 2004]] by Levellord and Benvolio

[[The Clones of Evil 1: The Galaxy of M|Clones of Evil 1: The Galaxy of M, The]] by Genius314

[[Crash on Gobo III]] by Ceilick

[[Dangerous Keen in The Haunted Mansion]] by Levellord

[[Daniel's Keen Mod]] by Daniel

[[The Four Golden Crystals|Four Golden Crystals]] by Unfleexable

[[The Grand Intellect: Doomship Dilemma|Grand Intellect: Doomship Dilemma, The]] by Dr. Villain

[[Halloween Special 2005]] by Levellord and Benvolio

[[Hiding from the Sky]] by Harz

[[The Ian Burton Adventure|Ian Burton Adventure, The]] by Zero Diamond

[[The Last Moon|Last Moon, The]] by [[User:Allstories|Allstories]]

[[Lego Keen]] by Ilsoap

[[Keen 0]] by ElecDude33

[[XkyKeen1|Keen X]] by Xkylyr Rauh

[[Keen Y]] by Grelphy

[[Keenbot]] by Victor4k

[[Kidnapped Keen]] by Ceilick

[[OrbKeen1|Monky Bussiness: An Essence of Mayhem]] by Commander Spleen

[[Norp the Yorp 1]] by Xtraverse

[[Patchwork Mod I]] by the Keen Community

[[The Perilous Pursuit|Perilous Pursuit, The]] by Ceilick and Commander Spleen

[[Return of the Shikadi: Lost in the Shadows]] by Shadow Master

[[Robot Rebellion]] by Multimania

[[The Search for the Sentinel|Search for the Sentinel, The]] by Kohntarkosz

[[Thwarting Mort]] by Benvolio

[[ShadowKeen1|Shadow Keen 1]] by Levellord

[[Stopping the Skypest]] by Benvolio

[[Vanished To Venus]] by Benvolio

[[Yorphius II]] by KeenRush

[[Zelda II]] by CheesyDave

=== Keen2 Mods ===

[[Exiting Epsilon]] by Benvolio

[[XkyKeen2|Keen Null]] by Xkylyr Rauh

[[Keen Smile]] by KeenRush

[[Norp the Yorp 2]] by Xtraverse

[[Patchwork Mod II]] by the Keen Community

[[Planet Destruction]] by Ceilick

[[Return of the Shikadi: The Destructor]] by Shadow Master

[[Revenge of the Shikadi: Exiting Epsilon]] by Benvolio

[[ShadowKeen2|Shadow Keen 2]] by Levellord

[[Zapping the Zot]] by Ceilick

=== Keen3 Mods ===

[[XkyKeen3|Keen Dash]] by Xkylyr Rauh

[[Norp the Yorp 3]] by Xtraverse

[[Patchwork Mod III]] by the Keen Community

[[Return of the Guardians]] by Ceilick

[[ShadowKeen3|Shadow Keen 3]] by Levellord

=== One-level Mods ===

[[The Adventures of The Oracle Janitor|Adventures of the Oracle Janitor, The]] by Ceilick

[[The Adventures of The Oracle Janitor 2|Adventures of the Oracle Janitor 2, The]] by Ceilick

[[Dangerous Dave in Copyright Infringement]] by Flaose

[[Generic Mod I]] by Levellord

[[Generic Mod II]] by Levellord

[[Generic Mod III]] by Levellord

[[Norp the Yorp 3.5]] by Xtraverse

[[Xky's One Level Mod]] by Xkylyr Rauh

=== Level Packs ===

[[Keen 1 Level Competition Level Pack (January 2007)]] by the Keen Community

[[XkyKeen1 (Level Pack)|Keen X Level Pack]] by KeenRush

User:Levellass

2007-01-29T12:31:44Z

Djaser:

This is Levallass. She is a Keen fan.

Aliens vs. Keen

2007-01-29T12:30:54Z

Djaser:

{{Stub}}

[[Image:Avk1.gif|frame|'Alien vs. Keen' title screen.]]

Alien vs. Keen is a [[Keen 1]] mod by DivoKeen; released as a demo in 2005. A second demo was released with the message that the game was discontinued. Levellord decided to pick it up and completed it with help of [[user:Levellass]] and some minor contributions of [[user:Djaser]].
The final version included an English and an average translated German version by Djaser. The final version is not yet hosted. If you own a Keen site than please put it on.

== External links ==

* [http://dosclassics.com/download/341 Download 'Alien vs. Keen first demo']

[[Category:Keen 1 mods]]
[[Category:Mods]]

Aliens vs. Keen

2007-01-29T12:30:04Z

Djaser:

{{Stub}}

[[Image:Avk1.gif|frame|'Alien vs. Keen' title screen.]]

Alien vs. Keen is a [[Keen 1]] mod by DivoKeen; released as a demo in 2005. A second demo was released with the message that the game was discontinued. Levellord decided to pick it up and completed it with help of [[user:Levelass]] and some minor contributions of [[user:Djaser]].
The final version included an English and an average translated German version by Djaser. The final version is not yet hosted. If you own a Keen site than please put it on.

== External links ==

* [http://dosclassics.com/download/341 Download 'Alien vs. Keen first demo']

[[Category:Keen 1 mods]]
[[Category:Mods]]

Aliens vs. Keen

2007-01-29T12:29:43Z

Djaser:

{{Stub}}

[[Image:Avk1.gif|frame|'Alien vs. Keen' title screen.]]

[[Aliens vs. Keen]] is a [[Keen 1]] mod by DivoKeen; released as a demo in 2005. A second demo was released with the message that the game was discontinued. Levellord decided to pick it up and completed it with help of [[user:Levelass]] and some minor contributions of [[user:Djaser]].
The final version included an English and an average translated German version by Djaser. The final version is not yet hosted. If you own a Keen site than please put it on.

== External links ==

* [http://dosclassics.com/download/341 Download 'Alien vs. Keen first demo']

[[Category:Keen 1 mods]]
[[Category:Mods]]

User talk:Malvineous

2007-01-29T12:21:29Z

Djaser: /* Double pages */

== GBC episode? ==

Hey Malvenineous, you forgot (I hope) to create a GBC Keen section. Will you still be making one? [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 19:30, 26 January 2007 (EST)

:I'm not sure - given that Tom Hall wasn't fond of the GBC edition and it's not true "classic Keen" I personally won't be creating a section for it, so it depends on what the rest of the community wants. I might post a poll about it on the PCKF, to see what everyone thinks. Thanks for the idea. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 19:36, 26 January 2007 (EST)

::But it still is Keen and part of it's history. Even the old Keen encyclopaedia had GBC Keen included. I don't see the point in giving all the Keen mods an own article but totally ignoring an official game. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 20:01, 26 January 2007 (EST)

:::It depends on your definition of "official" I guess. Tom Hall was the designer behind Keen, he was the one that came up with all the ideas that are being documented in this wiki, so you could always say the GBC version was unofficial from Tom's point of view. At any rate I've [http://p072.ezboard.com/fpubliccommanderkeenforumfrm8.showMessage?topicID=306.topic posted a poll about this on the PCKF] and whatever the outcome is of that will be the "policy" this wiki will adopt. You'll have to persuade the community over there if you want GBC included in the wiki! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 20:07, 26 January 2007 (EST)

== Vortiking and Vortipress ==

I think that the [[Vortiking]] and [[Vortipress]] articles should be removed due to being unimportant and having conjectural names. [[User:Allstories]]

:That's a fair point, but they are characters that feature in the storyline (and someone writing a fanfiction may include those characters since they featured in the official games, even if they were only minor.) Maybe the pages should be more prominantly flagged as having unofficial names? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:: I second Malv's opinion. Just leave a small piece of text saying "NOTE: These names cannot be proved to be official because of this and that".--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:40, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::Yeah, I think those should be kept, I think this wiki should have info about everything seen in the Keen games -- and when I created the articles I mentioned right from the start that they aren't official names but could be suitable names as they're named in fashion of Vortimom and Vortikid and so on. --[[User:KeenRush|KeenRush]] 11:37, 28 January 2007 (GMT)

::::They should be linked to on the main Vorticon past, I just did that. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 10:45, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

== Spoiler template ==

I think we are needing a Spoiler template (like the one used in Wikipedia. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:21, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:Agreed, I'll set up a spoiler template now and let you know when it's ready. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::I've created [[:Template:Spoiler]] now, see [[Inchworm]] for an example. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 12:10, 28 January 2007 (EST)

== Links to dedicated Keener pages ==

Also, would it be possible to use links to formal pages about every Keener instead of redirecting to a not-so-formal Userpage, for exxample [[Ceilick (Keener)]] instead of [[user:Ceilick]]?? Ah, forgot to sign --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:21, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:Would that really be necessary? What would you put on the official page that you couldn't put on the userpage? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::In my user page I'd put "I'm the Shadow Master, I live in blahblah de blah." In my official page I'd put "Ignacio R. Morelle, also known in the Keen community as the Shadow Master, joined in September 2006 and has produced several mods, etc. etc. etc.". Not very formal the user page I think. Just look at Djaser's. Does it tell useful information for a link? Or no link to user info at all, or a link to a more formal user info page, in my opinion. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:34, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::Hmmm, I still think you could put all that formal info on your userpage (and there's nothing stopping you from editing someone else's userpage.) I'm a little reluctant to have *two* pages for everyone in the wiki. Although I suppose for those people who don't have wiki accounts... Okay, go ahead and make a page like [[Ceilick (Keener)]] and add it to [[:Category:Keeners|<nowiki>[[Category:Keeners]]</nowiki>]]. Also put a link to their userpage on it if they've got an account (even if their userpage is currently empty.) We'll need to have some sort of policy on this though - you must have created a mod, utility or something of use to the Keen community before you get a dedicated Keener page like this. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:49, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::::Perhaps I'll wait to see how many users register in here till the third week of next month. I'll then start linkifying to regular pages for those who don't have an account but have contributed a lot (i.e. Andrew Durdin). But I'll start linkifying to user pages for those who have already registered now, even if they have not contributed outside of this wiki, they deserve a link in my opinion if they are contributing to the wiki--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:53, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::::You should probably keep it uniform - either always link to user pages or always link to dedicated pages. Actually I'm warming to the idea of having dedicated pages, because you could always use an infobox (like on the [[Garg]] page) which could contain standard info like PCKF usernames, number of mods or tools released, etc. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:59, 28 January 2007 (EST)

== Double pages ==
Tell me, is it really necessary to have three pages that cover more less the same subject: <pre>
[[Keen1_Creatures]], [[category:Keen_1_enemies]], [[category:Keen_1_creatures]].</pre> The second and third example are not linked to on the main page anyway.... [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 12:21, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

User talk:Malvineous

2007-01-29T12:20:59Z

Djaser: /* Double pages */

== GBC episode? ==

Hey Malvenineous, you forgot (I hope) to create a GBC Keen section. Will you still be making one? [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 19:30, 26 January 2007 (EST)

:I'm not sure - given that Tom Hall wasn't fond of the GBC edition and it's not true "classic Keen" I personally won't be creating a section for it, so it depends on what the rest of the community wants. I might post a poll about it on the PCKF, to see what everyone thinks. Thanks for the idea. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 19:36, 26 January 2007 (EST)

::But it still is Keen and part of it's history. Even the old Keen encyclopaedia had GBC Keen included. I don't see the point in giving all the Keen mods an own article but totally ignoring an official game. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 20:01, 26 January 2007 (EST)

:::It depends on your definition of "official" I guess. Tom Hall was the designer behind Keen, he was the one that came up with all the ideas that are being documented in this wiki, so you could always say the GBC version was unofficial from Tom's point of view. At any rate I've [http://p072.ezboard.com/fpubliccommanderkeenforumfrm8.showMessage?topicID=306.topic posted a poll about this on the PCKF] and whatever the outcome is of that will be the "policy" this wiki will adopt. You'll have to persuade the community over there if you want GBC included in the wiki! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 20:07, 26 January 2007 (EST)

== Vortiking and Vortipress ==

I think that the [[Vortiking]] and [[Vortipress]] articles should be removed due to being unimportant and having conjectural names. [[User:Allstories]]

:That's a fair point, but they are characters that feature in the storyline (and someone writing a fanfiction may include those characters since they featured in the official games, even if they were only minor.) Maybe the pages should be more prominantly flagged as having unofficial names? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:: I second Malv's opinion. Just leave a small piece of text saying "NOTE: These names cannot be proved to be official because of this and that".--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:40, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::Yeah, I think those should be kept, I think this wiki should have info about everything seen in the Keen games -- and when I created the articles I mentioned right from the start that they aren't official names but could be suitable names as they're named in fashion of Vortimom and Vortikid and so on. --[[User:KeenRush|KeenRush]] 11:37, 28 January 2007 (GMT)

::::They should be linked to on the main Vorticon past, I just did that. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 10:45, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

== Spoiler template ==

I think we are needing a Spoiler template (like the one used in Wikipedia. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:21, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:Agreed, I'll set up a spoiler template now and let you know when it's ready. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::I've created [[:Template:Spoiler]] now, see [[Inchworm]] for an example. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 12:10, 28 January 2007 (EST)

== Links to dedicated Keener pages ==

Also, would it be possible to use links to formal pages about every Keener instead of redirecting to a not-so-formal Userpage, for exxample [[Ceilick (Keener)]] instead of [[user:Ceilick]]?? Ah, forgot to sign --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:21, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:Would that really be necessary? What would you put on the official page that you couldn't put on the userpage? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::In my user page I'd put "I'm the Shadow Master, I live in blahblah de blah." In my official page I'd put "Ignacio R. Morelle, also known in the Keen community as the Shadow Master, joined in September 2006 and has produced several mods, etc. etc. etc.". Not very formal the user page I think. Just look at Djaser's. Does it tell useful information for a link? Or no link to user info at all, or a link to a more formal user info page, in my opinion. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:34, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::Hmmm, I still think you could put all that formal info on your userpage (and there's nothing stopping you from editing someone else's userpage.) I'm a little reluctant to have *two* pages for everyone in the wiki. Although I suppose for those people who don't have wiki accounts... Okay, go ahead and make a page like [[Ceilick (Keener)]] and add it to [[:Category:Keeners|<nowiki>[[Category:Keeners]]</nowiki>]]. Also put a link to their userpage on it if they've got an account (even if their userpage is currently empty.) We'll need to have some sort of policy on this though - you must have created a mod, utility or something of use to the Keen community before you get a dedicated Keener page like this. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:49, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::::Perhaps I'll wait to see how many users register in here till the third week of next month. I'll then start linkifying to regular pages for those who don't have an account but have contributed a lot (i.e. Andrew Durdin). But I'll start linkifying to user pages for those who have already registered now, even if they have not contributed outside of this wiki, they deserve a link in my opinion if they are contributing to the wiki--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:53, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::::You should probably keep it uniform - either always link to user pages or always link to dedicated pages. Actually I'm warming to the idea of having dedicated pages, because you could always use an infobox (like on the [[Garg]] page) which could contain standard info like PCKF usernames, number of mods or tools released, etc. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:59, 28 January 2007 (EST)

== Double pages ==
Tell me, is it really necessary to have three pages that cover more less the same subject:
[[Keen1_Creatures]], [[category:Keen_1_enemies]], [[category:Keen_1_creatures]]. The second and third example are not linked to on the main page anyway.... 12:20, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

User talk:Malvineous

2007-01-29T12:20:03Z

Djaser:

== GBC episode? ==

Hey Malvenineous, you forgot (I hope) to create a GBC Keen section. Will you still be making one? [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 19:30, 26 January 2007 (EST)

:I'm not sure - given that Tom Hall wasn't fond of the GBC edition and it's not true "classic Keen" I personally won't be creating a section for it, so it depends on what the rest of the community wants. I might post a poll about it on the PCKF, to see what everyone thinks. Thanks for the idea. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 19:36, 26 January 2007 (EST)

::But it still is Keen and part of it's history. Even the old Keen encyclopaedia had GBC Keen included. I don't see the point in giving all the Keen mods an own article but totally ignoring an official game. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 20:01, 26 January 2007 (EST)

:::It depends on your definition of "official" I guess. Tom Hall was the designer behind Keen, he was the one that came up with all the ideas that are being documented in this wiki, so you could always say the GBC version was unofficial from Tom's point of view. At any rate I've [http://p072.ezboard.com/fpubliccommanderkeenforumfrm8.showMessage?topicID=306.topic posted a poll about this on the PCKF] and whatever the outcome is of that will be the "policy" this wiki will adopt. You'll have to persuade the community over there if you want GBC included in the wiki! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 20:07, 26 January 2007 (EST)

== Vortiking and Vortipress ==

I think that the [[Vortiking]] and [[Vortipress]] articles should be removed due to being unimportant and having conjectural names. [[User:Allstories]]

:That's a fair point, but they are characters that feature in the storyline (and someone writing a fanfiction may include those characters since they featured in the official games, even if they were only minor.) Maybe the pages should be more prominantly flagged as having unofficial names? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:: I second Malv's opinion. Just leave a small piece of text saying "NOTE: These names cannot be proved to be official because of this and that".--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:40, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::Yeah, I think those should be kept, I think this wiki should have info about everything seen in the Keen games -- and when I created the articles I mentioned right from the start that they aren't official names but could be suitable names as they're named in fashion of Vortimom and Vortikid and so on. --[[User:KeenRush|KeenRush]] 11:37, 28 January 2007 (GMT)

::::They should be linked to on the main Vorticon past, I just did that. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 10:45, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

== Spoiler template ==

I think we are needing a Spoiler template (like the one used in Wikipedia. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:21, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:Agreed, I'll set up a spoiler template now and let you know when it's ready. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::I've created [[:Template:Spoiler]] now, see [[Inchworm]] for an example. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 12:10, 28 January 2007 (EST)

== Links to dedicated Keener pages ==

Also, would it be possible to use links to formal pages about every Keener instead of redirecting to a not-so-formal Userpage, for exxample [[Ceilick (Keener)]] instead of [[user:Ceilick]]?? Ah, forgot to sign --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:21, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:Would that really be necessary? What would you put on the official page that you couldn't put on the userpage? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::In my user page I'd put "I'm the Shadow Master, I live in blahblah de blah." In my official page I'd put "Ignacio R. Morelle, also known in the Keen community as the Shadow Master, joined in September 2006 and has produced several mods, etc. etc. etc.". Not very formal the user page I think. Just look at Djaser's. Does it tell useful information for a link? Or no link to user info at all, or a link to a more formal user info page, in my opinion. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:34, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::Hmmm, I still think you could put all that formal info on your userpage (and there's nothing stopping you from editing someone else's userpage.) I'm a little reluctant to have *two* pages for everyone in the wiki. Although I suppose for those people who don't have wiki accounts... Okay, go ahead and make a page like [[Ceilick (Keener)]] and add it to [[:Category:Keeners|<nowiki>[[Category:Keeners]]</nowiki>]]. Also put a link to their userpage on it if they've got an account (even if their userpage is currently empty.) We'll need to have some sort of policy on this though - you must have created a mod, utility or something of use to the Keen community before you get a dedicated Keener page like this. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:49, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::::Perhaps I'll wait to see how many users register in here till the third week of next month. I'll then start linkifying to regular pages for those who don't have an account but have contributed a lot (i.e. Andrew Durdin). But I'll start linkifying to user pages for those who have already registered now, even if they have not contributed outside of this wiki, they deserve a link in my opinion if they are contributing to the wiki--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:53, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::::You should probably keep it uniform - either always link to user pages or always link to dedicated pages. Actually I'm warming to the idea of having dedicated pages, because you could always use an infobox (like on the [[Garg]] page) which could contain standard info like PCKF usernames, number of mods or tools released, etc. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:59, 28 January 2007 (EST)

== Double pages ==
Tell me, is it really necessary to have three pages that cover more less the same subject:
[[Keen1_creatures]], [[Keen_1_enemies]], [[Keen_1_creatures]]. The second and third example are not linked to on the main page anyway....

Butler Robot

2007-01-29T12:17:06Z

Djaser:

{{Stub}}

{{Creature Infobox
| Image = Tin Can.png
| Appears = [[Keen 1]]
| Harmful = No
}}

[[Image:Butler_robot-ingame.png|frame|A [[Butler Robot]] in [[Keen 1]]]]

TODO

[[Category:Keen 1 creatures]]
[[Category:Enemies]]
[[Category:Need pictures]]

Butler Robot

2007-01-29T12:16:45Z

Djaser:

{{Stub}}

{{Creature Infobox
| Image = Tin Can.png
| Appears = [[Keen 1]]
| Harmful = No
}}

[[Image:Butler_robot-ingame.png|frame|A [[Butler Robot]] in [[Keen 1]]]]

TODO

[[Category:Keen 1 enemies]]
[[Category:Enemies]]
[[Category:Need pictures]]

Pat Pat

2007-01-29T12:14:50Z

Djaser:

{{Stub}}

{{Creature Infobox
| Appears = [[Keen 1]]
| Harmful = Yes
}}

This organism frequently appears in [[Keen 1]] usual in little groups. One can not be certain if it's a plant similar to a Venus Fly trap or an animal similar to a mussel. Technical it’s not a creature but a tile, this argues for the identification as a plant. However, it should not be forgotten that the biology of Mars is very different of Earth, it might be neither of the two.

[[Category:Keen 1 enemies]]
[[Category:Enemies]]
[[Category:Need pictures]]

Pat Pat

2007-01-29T12:13:58Z

Djaser:

{{Stub}}

{{Creature Infobox
| Appears = [[Keen 1]]
| Harmful = Yes
}}

This organism frequently appears in [[Keen 1]] usual in little groups. One can not be certain if it's a plant similar to a Venus Flytrap or an animal similar to a mussel. Technical it’s not a creature but a tile, this argues for the identification as a plant. However, it should not be forgotten that the biology of Mars is very different of Earth, it might be neither of the two.

[[Category:Keen 1 enemies]]
[[Category:Enemies]]
[[Category:Need pictures]]

Spot

2007-01-29T11:45:38Z

Djaser:

[[Image:Spot.png|thumb|Spot as seen in the ending sequence of [[Keen 2]].]]

[[Spot]] is Keen's pet [[yorp]] he brought home from [[Mars]], in [[Keen 1]]. It's revealed at the end of Keen 1 that he has brought the yorp home as his mother screams in shock at what the "one-eyed green thing" in his room is. The second time [[Spot]] is seen is in the ending sequence of [[Keen 2]]. Spot's name is never mentioned in the story but in the picture in [[Keen 2]] Spot is outside the house and his name is written on a bowl filled with dog food. [[Spot]] may be one of the yorps that can be seen in the demo version of [[Keen 6]]. Spot is also know in Keen community under the name [[Norp]].

[[Image:Keen4-story bg.png|frame|left|[[Spot]] sleeping in the garden (background image for the [[Keen 4]] scrolling story)]]

[[Category:Keeniverse]]
[[Category:The Blaze Family]]

User talk:Malvineous

2007-01-29T10:45:12Z

Djaser: /* Vortiking and Vortipress */

== GBC episode? ==

Hey Malvenineous, you forgot (I hope) to create a GBC Keen section. Will you still be making one? [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 19:30, 26 January 2007 (EST)

:I'm not sure - given that Tom Hall wasn't fond of the GBC edition and it's not true "classic Keen" I personally won't be creating a section for it, so it depends on what the rest of the community wants. I might post a poll about it on the PCKF, to see what everyone thinks. Thanks for the idea. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 19:36, 26 January 2007 (EST)

::But it still is Keen and part of it's history. Even the old Keen encyclopaedia had GBC Keen included. I don't see the point in giving all the Keen mods an own article but totally ignoring an official game. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 20:01, 26 January 2007 (EST)

:::It depends on your definition of "official" I guess. Tom Hall was the designer behind Keen, he was the one that came up with all the ideas that are being documented in this wiki, so you could always say the GBC version was unofficial from Tom's point of view. At any rate I've [http://p072.ezboard.com/fpubliccommanderkeenforumfrm8.showMessage?topicID=306.topic posted a poll about this on the PCKF] and whatever the outcome is of that will be the "policy" this wiki will adopt. You'll have to persuade the community over there if you want GBC included in the wiki! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 20:07, 26 January 2007 (EST)

== Vortiking and Vortipress ==

I think that the [[Vortiking]] and [[Vortipress]] articles should be removed due to being unimportant and having conjectural names. [[User:Allstories]]

:That's a fair point, but they are characters that feature in the storyline (and someone writing a fanfiction may include those characters since they featured in the official games, even if they were only minor.) Maybe the pages should be more prominantly flagged as having unofficial names? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:: I second Malv's opinion. Just leave a small piece of text saying "NOTE: These names cannot be proved to be official because of this and that".--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:40, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::Yeah, I think those should be kept, I think this wiki should have info about everything seen in the Keen games -- and when I created the articles I mentioned right from the start that they aren't official names but could be suitable names as they're named in fashion of Vortimom and Vortikid and so on. --[[User:KeenRush|KeenRush]] 11:37, 28 January 2007 (GMT)

::::They should be linked to on the main Vorticon past, I just did that. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 10:45, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

== Spoiler template ==

I think we are needing a Spoiler template (like the one used in Wikipedia. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:21, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:Agreed, I'll set up a spoiler template now and let you know when it's ready. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::I've created [[:Template:Spoiler]] now, see [[Inchworm]] for an example. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 12:10, 28 January 2007 (EST)

== Links to dedicated Keener pages ==

Also, would it be possible to use links to formal pages about every Keener instead of redirecting to a not-so-formal Userpage, for exxample [[Ceilick (Keener)]] instead of [[user:Ceilick]]?? Ah, forgot to sign --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:21, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:Would that really be necessary? What would you put on the official page that you couldn't put on the userpage? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:28, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::In my user page I'd put "I'm the Shadow Master, I live in blahblah de blah." In my official page I'd put "Ignacio R. Morelle, also known in the Keen community as the Shadow Master, joined in September 2006 and has produced several mods, etc. etc. etc.". Not very formal the user page I think. Just look at Djaser's. Does it tell useful information for a link? Or no link to user info at all, or a link to a more formal user info page, in my opinion. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:34, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::Hmmm, I still think you could put all that formal info on your userpage (and there's nothing stopping you from editing someone else's userpage.) I'm a little reluctant to have *two* pages for everyone in the wiki. Although I suppose for those people who don't have wiki accounts... Okay, go ahead and make a page like [[Ceilick (Keener)]] and add it to [[:Category:Keeners|<nowiki>[[Category:Keeners]]</nowiki>]]. Also put a link to their userpage on it if they've got an account (even if their userpage is currently empty.) We'll need to have some sort of policy on this though - you must have created a mod, utility or something of use to the Keen community before you get a dedicated Keener page like this. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:49, 28 January 2007 (EST)

::::Perhaps I'll wait to see how many users register in here till the third week of next month. I'll then start linkifying to regular pages for those who don't have an account but have contributed a lot (i.e. Andrew Durdin). But I'll start linkifying to user pages for those who have already registered now, even if they have not contributed outside of this wiki, they deserve a link in my opinion if they are contributing to the wiki--[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 11:53, 28 January 2007 (EST)

:::::You should probably keep it uniform - either always link to user pages or always link to dedicated pages. Actually I'm warming to the idea of having dedicated pages, because you could always use an infobox (like on the [[Garg]] page) which could contain standard info like PCKF usernames, number of mods or tools released, etc. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:59, 28 January 2007 (EST)

Vorticons

2007-01-29T10:44:06Z

Djaser:

{{Stub}}

[[Image:Vorticon-ingame.png|thumb|A [[Vorticon Guard]] in [[Keen 1]]]]

[[Image:Vorticon.png|left]]

[[Vorticons]] are a peace-loving race that have been enslaved by the [[Gannalech]]. There are several kind of Vorticons. Some of them are more difficult to stun than others, and all of them don't kill Keen when touched.

It seems Vorticons have spread to different areas in space. Many still live on the home planet of the race, [[Vorticon VI]], which still seems to be somekind of central for them. Vorticons have an outpost in [[Mars]], and Keen confronted them there for the first time. In [[Keen 2]], a [[Vorticon Mothership]] looms above the Earth, ready to wipe out eight famous cities from the map. Aboard the ship Keen meets Vorticons he hasn't seen before and later on Vorticon VI, in [[Keen 3]], he encounters even more.

Several vorticons can be seen in the first trilogy:

Keen 1:
* [[Vorticon Guard]]

Keen 2:
* [[Vorticon Commander]]
* [[Vorticon Grunt (yellow)]]
* [[Vortikid]]

Keen 3:
* [[Vorticon Elder]]
* [[Vorticon Elite]]
* [[Vorticon Grunt (red)]]
* [[Vortikid]]
* [[Vortiking]]
* [[Vortimom]]
* [[Vortininja]]
* [[Vortipress]]

[[Category:Races]]
[[Category:Keen 1]]
[[Category:Keen 2]]
[[Category:Keen 3]]
[[Category:Vorticons]]

Norp

2007-01-28T16:13:41Z

Djaser:

[[Image:Norpp.JPG|frame|Norp in Norp the Yorp 3.5]]
Norp is another name for Keens pet [[Yorp]] [[Spot]]. The name first appeared in the Keen community and is therefore not official. Some people rather uses the name Norp and Spot, most notable [[Xtraverse]] who let Norp star in his four mods.

== Appearance ==
* [[Norp the Yorp 1]]
* [[Norp the Yorp 2]]
* [[Norp the Yorp 3]]
* [[Norp the Yorp 3.5]]

Norp

2007-01-28T16:13:27Z

Djaser:

Norp

2007-01-28T16:11:10Z

Djaser:

[[Image:Norpp.jpg|frame|Norp in Norp the Yorp 3.5]]
Norp is another name for Keens pet [[Yorp]] [[Spot]]. The name first appeared in the Keen community and is therefore not official. Some people rather uses the name Norp and Spot, most notable [[Xtraverse]] who let Norp star in his four mods.

== Appearance ==
* [[Norp the Yorp 1]]
* [[Norp the Yorp 2]]
* [[Norp the Yorp 3]]
* [[Norp the Yorp 3.5]]
[[Image:Yorp-ingame.png|frame|A [[Yorp]] in [[Keen 1]]]]

Norp

2007-01-28T16:10:16Z

Djaser:

Norp

2007-01-28T16:02:23Z

Djaser:

Norp is another name for Keens pet [[Yorp]] [[Spot]]. The name first appeared in the Keen community and is therefore not official. Some people rather uses the name Norp and Spot, most notable [[Xtraverse]] who let Norp star in his four mods.

== Appearance ==
* [[Norp the Yorp 1]]
* [[Norp the Yorp 2]]
* [[Norp the Yorp 3]]
* [[Norp the Yorp 3.5]]

Norp

2007-01-28T16:02:09Z

Djaser:

Norp is another name for Keens pet [[Yorp] [[Spot]]. The name first appeared in the Keen community and is therefore not official. Some people rather uses the name Norp and Spot, most notable [[Xtraverse]] who let Norp star in his four mods.

== Appearance ==
* [[Norp the Yorp 1]]
* [[Norp the Yorp 2]]
* [[Norp the Yorp 3]]
* [[Norp the Yorp 3.5]]

Norp the Yorp 1

2007-01-28T15:57:38Z

Djaser:

{{Stub}}

[[Image:Ny11.gif|frame|'Norp the Yorp' title screen.]]

'''Norp the Yorp: Inside Mortimer's Computer''' is mod released by Xtraverse. The game centers around the [[Yorp]] [[Spot]] which real name is, according to the game, [[Norp]]. Norp is being sucked into [[Mortimer McMire|Mortimer's]] computer, in which he must find four vital chips to break the computer and prevent the destruction of Mars.

== External links ==

* [http://dosclassics.com/download/7 Download 'Norp the Yorp 1']

[[Category:Keen 1 mods]]
[[Category:Mods]]

Yorp

2007-01-28T15:56:06Z

Djaser:

{{Creature Infobox
| Appears = [[Keen 1]], [[Keen 2]], [[Keen 4]], [[Keen 6]] demo
| Shots = 1
}}

[[Yorp]]s are friendly one-eyed Martians. Physically they resemble [[Garg|gargs]] slightly, but they're smaller in size and have one eye instead of two. Yorps are very happy, and not dangerous at all.

[[Image:Yorp-ingame.png|frame|A [[Yorp]] in [[Keen 1]]]]

They seem to be suitable for pets, and Keen has actually had one as a pet since his trip to Mars. His pet yorp is called [[Spot]]. The only danger the yorps represent is that they can accidentally push Keen into something deadly. They move quite slowly and often make small jumps, as if they're excited to be alive. Unlike gargs, yorps have only one buck-tooth in their lower jaw giving them quite a cute appearance. No doubt this is why Keen takes one home as a pet at the [[Keen1 Story|end of the first episode]].

Yorps can be stunned for a few seconds by jumping on them, and it takes one shot to kill them.

Yorps were slaves to gargs before Viking landed on the despotic Martian king, freeing them from their masters.

Yorps can also be seen on the world map of [[Keen 6]] demo version probably representing Spot. They're sitting on signs that tell the version is a demo version. Spot does also appear in [[Keen 2]] en [[Keen 4]]

[[Category:Keen 1 creatures]]
[[Category:Creatures]]

Yorp

2007-01-28T15:55:35Z

Djaser:

{{Creature Infobox
| Appears = [[Keen 1]], [[Keen 2]], [[Keen 4]], [[Keen 6]] demo
| Shots = 1
}}

[[Yorp]]s are friendly one-eyed Martians. Physically they resemble [[Garg|gargs]] slightly, but they're smaller in size and have one eye instead of two. Yorps are very happy, and not dangerous at all.

[[Image:Yorp-ingame.png|frame|A [[Yorp]] in [[Keen 1]]]]

They seem to be suitable for pets, and Keen has actually had one as a pet since his trip to Mars. His pet yorp is called [[Spot]]. The only danger the yorps represent is that they can accidentally push Keen into something deadly. They move quite slowly and often make small jumps, as if they're excited to be alive. Unlike gargs, yorps have only one buck-tooth in their lower jaw giving them quite a cute appearance. No doubt this is why Keen takes one home as a pet at the [[Keen1 Story|end of the first episode]].

Yorps can be stunned for a few seconds by jumping on them, and it takes one shot to kill them.

Yorps were slaves to gargs before Viking landed on the despotic Martian king, freeing them from their masters.

Yorps can also be seen on the world map of [[Keen 6]] demo version probably representing Spot. Spot does also appear in [[Keen 2]] en [[Keen 4]] They're sitting on signs that tell the version is a demo version.

[[Category:Keen 1 creatures]]
[[Category:Creatures]]

Yorp

2007-01-28T15:53:22Z

Djaser:

{{Creature Infobox
| Appears = [[Keen 1]], [[Keen 2]], [[Keen 4]], [[Keen 6]] demo
| Shots = 1
}}

[[Yorp]]s are friendly one-eyed Martians. Physically they resemble [[Garg|gargs]] slightly, but they're smaller in size and have one eye instead of two. Yorps are very happy, and not dangerous at all.

[[Image:Yorp-ingame.png|frame|A [[Yorp]] in [[Keen 1]]]]

They seem to be suitable for pets, and Keen has actually had one as a pet since his trip to Mars. His pet yorp is called [[Spot]]. The only danger the yorps represent is that they can accidentally push Keen into something deadly. They move quite slowly and often make small jumps, as if they're excited to be alive. Unlike gargs, yorps have only one buck-tooth in their lower jaw giving them quite a cute appearance. No doubt this is why Keen takes one home as a pet at the [[Keen1 Story|end of the first episode]].

Yorps can be stunned for a few seconds by jumping on them, and it takes one shot to kill them.

Yorps were slaves to gargs before Viking landed on the despotic Martian king, freeing them from their masters.

Yorps can also be seen on the world map of [[Keen 6]] demo version. They're sitting on signs that tell the version is a demo version.

[[Category:Keen 1 creatures]]
[[Category:Creatures]]

User talk:Malvineous

2007-01-26T09:01:11Z

Djaser:

Hey Malvenineous, you forgot (I hope) to create a GBC Keen section. Will you still be making one? [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 19:30, 26 January 2007 (EST)

<i>I'm not sure - given that Tom Hall wasn't fond of the GBC edition and it's not true "classic Keen" I personally won't be creating a section for it, so it depends on what the rest of the community wants. I might post a poll about it on the PCKF, to see what everyone thinks. Thanks for the idea.</i> -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 19:36, 26 January 2007 (EST)

But it still is Keen and part of it's history. Even the old Keen encyclopaedia had GBC Keen included. I don't see the point in giving all the Keen mods an own article but totally ignoring an official game. [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 20:01, 26 January 2007 (EST)

User talk:Malvineous

2007-01-26T08:30:18Z

Djaser:

Hey Malvenineous, you forgot (I hope) to create a GBC Keen section. Will you still be making one? [[User:Djaser|Djaser]] 19:30, 26 January 2007 (EST)

User talk:Malvineous

2007-01-26T08:30:03Z

Djaser:

Hey Malvenineous, you forgot (I hope) to create a GBC Keen section. Will you still be making one? 19:30, 26 January 2007 (EST)

User:Djaser

2007-01-26T08:23:25Z

Djaser:

Hello my name is Holy Djaser.

I can not tell my pckf user name because I'm not registered there.