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Goodbye, Galaxy!

2013-02-18T07:01:53Z

Saluton: proofreading

[[Image:Goodbye, Galaxy!.jpg|thumb|The cover art for '''Commander Keen: Goodbye, Galaxy!''']]
[[Image:Keen_4_title.png|frame|''[[Keen 4: Secret of the Oracle|Episode IV: Secret of the Oracle]]'' title screen]]
[[Image:Keen_5_title.png|frame|''[[Keen 5: The Armageddon Machine|Episode V: The Armageddon Machine]]'' title screen]]

'''''Goodbye, Galaxy!''''' is the name given to the second installment of the ''Commander Keen'' series. It consists of:

* ''[[Keen 4: Secret of the Oracle|Episode IV: Secret of the Oracle]]''
* ''[[Keen 5: The Armageddon Machine|Episode V: The Armageddon Machine]]''

Because of the similarities between the engines (they are almost identical), ''[[Keen 6: Aliens Ate My Baby Sitter!|Aliens Ate My Baby Sitter!]]'' is often included as part of the ''Goodbye, Galaxy!'' "trilogy", particularly with [[:Category:Modding Tools (Galaxy)|Goodbye Galaxy modding tools]], which can often edit ''Keen 6'' as well.

In the storyline though, ''[[Keen 6: Aliens Ate My Baby Sitter!|Aliens Ate My Baby Sitter!]]'' sits well and truly after the ''Goodbye, Galaxy!'' series, although some elements of the ''Goodbye, Galaxy!'' story do continue in ''Aliens''.

The ''[[Invasion of the Vorticons]]'' series precedes ''Goodbye, Galaxy!'' and ''[[Keen Dreams]]'' is often considered to fit in between these two series because its look and feel can be seen as being something of a halfway point between them, particularly in its introduction of the isometric style of platforms (see ''[[Invasion of the Vorticons]]'' article for more on this).

A [[Hint Sheet (Goodbye Galaxy)|hint sheet]] was released with the registered versions of the games in this series, which contains tips, cheats and other interesting information.

[[Category:Keeniverse]]
[[Category:Episodes]]

Horseradish Hill

2013-02-13T06:45:12Z

Saluton: proofreading

{{Level Infobox
| Game = [[Keen Dreams]]
| Level = 1
| Location = [[Tuberia]]
| Points = 8,800
| Ammo = 18 x [[Flower Power]]
| Lives = 1
| Required = Yes
}}
[[Image:Ckdlv01.png|thumb|320px|Map of Horseradish Hill]]

'''Horseradish Hill''' is the first level in [[Tuberia]]. Keen will need to pass it in order to get to the main body of the map, though it contains no [[Boobus Bombs]].

The level structure is rather simple, and the level can be completed in less than a minute. It has largely horizontal movement, much like the [[defense tunnel]]s in [[Keen 5]]. Keen merely has to go left from his starting position until he reaches a wall, climb up the pole next to it, continue left, drop down and go left again to the exit. (A few enemies will need to be stunned along the way.)
The level contains one extra life. It can be reached by going up to where the first [[Tater Trooper]] is, and jumping to the right, you will find a flowerpot. Jump off the right edge, and if you get the correct location, you will get the 1UP.

There exists an element of overkill at one point with four Tater Troopers on one platform. As so many Troopers are crowded on it, at least one may very well fall off the platform and onto the ground below when stunned. This makes the level harder as, once they turn into their usual selves, one must avoid Tater Troopers more often with no safe platform to jump to.

[[Category:Keen Dreams levels]]

Boobus Bomb

2013-02-11T14:53:37Z

Saluton: punctuation

{{Item Infobox
| Image = KD_Boobus_Bomb.png
| Appears = [[Keen Dreams]]
| Ammo = One bomb
}}
[[Image:Boobus_bombs.png|200px|thumb|left|Keen going to get some Boobus Bombs]]
'''Boobus Bombs''' are bombs which are used against [[King Boobus Tuber]] in [[Keen Dreams]]. Keen must collect 12 of them in order to destroy King Boobus Tuber by throwing the bombs at him. The bombs are scattered through the [[Keen Dreams Levels|Keen Dreams levels]], however not every level has them.

The bombs are found in sets of three bombs each in various levels. Some levels have three, while [[Apple Acres]] and [[Spud City]] have six. Keen must complete at least three levels with bombs in them to acquire enough bombs to defeat King Boobus. He cannot enter level 16 [[Boobus' Chamber]] without at least 12 bombs, though he can collect all 24 found in the game.

When Keen enters a level with bombs, the message "Boobus Bombs near!" flashes on the screen. Levels with Boobus Bombs in them include [[Grape Grove]], [[The Melon Mines]], [[Squash Swamp]], [[Apple Acres]] and [[Spud City]]. It may pay to stock up with extra bombs in case you "drop" some in [[Boobus' Chamber]].

It is not known why King Boobus allows such bombs to reside in his kingdom, as they appear to be the only means of destroying him. It is possible they were built by the many children kidnapped by his [[Tater Trooper]]s and that he is unaware of their existence. Boobus Bombs explode on contact with King Boobus only and will not disappear if they miss their target (unlike [[Flower Power]]s).

[[Category:Keen Dreams items]]
[[Category:Items]]
[[Category:Weapons]]

User talk:Malvineous

2013-02-11T14:47:30Z

Saluton: /* Goodbye, Galaxy! */ new section

Been whined at by Lemm and assorted people, apparently the term 'sprite' applies to graphics only and the terms I should have been using for all the 'sprite' patch stuff is 'actor'; is there any way to systematically change the term 'sprite' in patch page titles (and maybe text) to 'actor'? If not, leave it, but if so, it might be something to think about. --[[User:Levellass|Levellass]] 02:41, 17 July 2011 (GMT)

: It is possible to do a bulk search and replace across pages, but the pages themselves will need to be renamed manually. [[User:DHeadshot]] has access to do this, perhaps you can ask him? If he renames pages when logged in as a bot, it's possible to avoid creating those redirect pages too. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 03:00, 17 July 2011 (GMT)

Hey, I'm not sure how, but I seem to have duplicated a page. Can you delete the incorrectly capitalized and less patched [[Patch:About id]]? You'll notice it only has text patches as opposed tot he bitmap and sprite patches on the new page. --[[User:Levellass|Levellass]]

: About id was the first patch page created while we were figuring out the syntax highlighting. I've deleted it in preference to About Id now! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 09:52, 19 March 2011 (GMT)

== ''More talk...'' ==

The older conversations on this page have been archived to keep the content current. To read the previous content on this page, please see:
* 2010-08: [http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/keen/index.php?title=User_talk:Malvineous&oldid=15924 revision 15924]
* 2008-04: [http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/keen/index.php?title=User_talk:Malvineous&oldid=9028 revision 9028]



== Jeez, have I been such an butt in the past? ==

Hey Malv. I've not been on in ages, and I was looking at some of my past edits. I have just realized I was acting a total ass, and you should have banned me for what I did. Your patience (and Shadow Master's) with me, legendary as it is, was stretched to the limit, and I'm sorry for what I did to this wiki, with that fiasco wih KeenRush, and me smarting off to you over the preview button and all. I was going through a rather hard period im my life then, and it shows--looking at the comments and such, it looks as if they were written by someone else. Again, I'd like to apologize for any discord I've caused this place. -[[User:Xterra1|Xt]][[User talk:Xterra1|er]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|r]][[Special:Random|a1]] 17:02, 19 November 2011 (GMT)

: Hey Xt - no worries, I figured it was something you would grow out of eventually ;-) -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 23:50, 19 November 2011 (GMT)

:: And I was looking at the [[Talk: Viva|Viva talkpage]] yesterday. "Xterra-ism". :-) At least I've gotten SOMETHING besides a Nissan SUV named after me. Again, I must compliment you on your patience with me. -[[User:Xterra1|Xt]][[User talk:Xterra1|er]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|r]][[Special:Random|a1]] 18:07, 20 November 2011 (GMT)

== Abandoned mods / level packs ==

Hello Malvineous. As I mentioned on [[Talk:Vorticon Mods#Missing_Download_links|Talk:Vorticon Mods]], I still have a few abandoned mods/level packs by different people that are not available for download anymore (at least according to the wiki). Various mods and packs have been directly uploaded to shikadi.net/wiki/, thus I sent one mod to Tulip who contributed a lot to the Vorticons Mods page. He replied two weeks ago, but since then no download has been added for "Mars Kingdoms", so I assume he is just too busy for editing. As you run this wiki, I wonder if I can also send them to you? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 09:48, 20 November 2011 (GMT)

: Sure, just e-mail them to malvineous@shikadi.net and I will upload them to shikadi.net/wiki/ if you'd be willing to add the necessary links to the article pages! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 10:27, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
::Great, I'll send them this day! :-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 11:46, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
:::Sent. The names of the zip files are those of the original downloads (if I remember correctly), rename them as you please. The mail includes demos of Redemption, Lord of the Rings (two demos), and Mars Kingdoms. There is also a beta of Bp's "mod" Marooned on Mars Forever, but I think it seems more like a level pack (no changed graphics, no patches and only minimal edits of the story text). What do you think? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 16:01, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
::::Not really sure, whatever you think is best would be fine. And thanks, I've put them into http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/files/Mods/abandoned/ so you can link to them directly there. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:24, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::Thanks a lot! I added Bp's work to level packs, as I think that changed titles in the story text do not really make it a mod. Anyway, I noticed that the various download links for dosclassics.com are not working anymore. I haven't been able to access the site for quite a while. Do you know anything? Does the site even exist anymore? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:09, 21 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::I haven't heard anything but as of a year ago it seemed to be online only for "nostalgic reasons" so I guess it's finally offline now. You could try contacting Xtraverse (xtraverse@hotmail.com) and see if he still has a copy of the site... -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 00:17, 22 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::Okay, I sent him a mail. I wonder, if he doesn't want to put the site online anymore, would it be possible to archive the site at shikadi.net just like CC314? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:35, 23 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::::Certainly I'm happy to do that, if Xtra is willing to send the files across or upload them to my server. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:56, 23 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::::Yeah, it would be great to keep that fine piece of Keen community history. By the way, the hotmail account seems to be inactive (I got "mailbox unavailable" as a response), so now I'm hoping that he'll answer the mail I sent to his @spatang.com address... --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:41, 24 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::::::Hi again. I sent you another abandoned mod, "Trouble on Xion 2" (Keen 4 this time). On a side note, the zip file for [[Trapped Keen]] includes the KEEN3.EXE, which should probably be removed. Also, no answer from Xtraverse yet. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 11:22, 26 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::::::Thanks, uploaded. Thanks also for pointing out keen3.exe, I have removed it from the zip. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 01:50, 27 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::::::::Darn, I guess I should have been more vigilant in copying the levels and mods over to the keenwiki server... -- [[User:Flaose|Flaose]] 04:01, 30 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::::::::Meh, you couldn't get the official Keen3 game out of it anyway thanks to the modifications, so it's more a courtesy to id than anything else :-) -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:18, 30 November 2011 (GMT)

==PCKF Archive==
Thanks again! On a side note, could you delete Norp3 title.png, please? But now something completely different: Maybe you have noticed that the old PCKF (its ezBoard incarnation) is not available in the Wayback Archive anymore since the Archive's new version was introduced. Due to the attack on ezBoard back in 2005, this means that basically all pre-2005 topics of the PCKF are lost now. I have basically not followed the community this year, do you know if there have been any reactions on this incident? The thing is, I saved a bunch of topics before the old Archive was taken down, and I'd like to send them over to someone who wants to turn that mess into something more comfortable on the web. But maybe I'm just late to the party and there already have been efforts to save the old PCKF. Has anything been said? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:55, 27 November 2011 (GMT)
: Done. And I'm not sure about the PCKF - after all those old topics were lost it seemed a bit hit and miss to save it. Plus it was all in HTML so it's difficult to convert - there was some discussion about importing all the topics into the current PCKF. I've also spent hardly any time at the PCKF for a long while, so I'm not sure what the mood is. I think many people who had topics then are no longer active, it seems to be quite a different group of people there now! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 07:16, 28 November 2011 (GMT)
::Okay, I see. I might create a topic on this issue in the PCKF this week (after a quick look, there still are quite a few of the "old ones", though). But if nobody has archived anything, would you mind to host certain topics I saved (of course, not every "W00t! 3000 Posts!!!111!1!" thing)? I might select interesting topics bit by bit - but first I have to know if that is even possible. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:01, 28 November 2011 (GMT)
:::Sure, but in that case it'll be easier to give you some webspace so you can manage it all yourself, if you're prepared to do so! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 23:21, 28 November 2011 (GMT)
::::Thanks for your offer! I'll create a topic in the PCKF first this weekend and see what others did (if anything), then I'll get back to you. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:27, 29 November 2011 (GMT)

I had talked with tulip per mail the last few days. According to him, there was nothing on the forum about archiving the ezBoard, and as he is one of the most active members, that has to be the truth. I created a thread nonetheless, but I don't expect much. So I'd greatly appreciate if you really gave me some webspace. :-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 18:27, 6 December 2011 (GMT)

Hello. I neither have mail nor FTP access right now, so could you write your answer on my last mail at this place (in case you already responded)? Also, could you do me a really big favour and make a little edit to the index.htm of the PCKF Archive? Actually, I finally wanted to post, but today I noticed that the page is incorretly displayed in certain browsers due to a little error on my side. Please change

<nowiki>PCKF Archive</a></nowiki>

to

<nowiki>PCKF Archive</nowiki>

and it should be fixed. Thanks in advance! :-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 20:05, 22 January 2012 (GMT)

: Done. There was a suspected intrusion on my web host, so my provider reset everyone's passwords as a precaution. Your new password is in your e-mail. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:39, 22 January 2012 (GMT)
:: Thank you! :-D --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 21:06, 29 January 2012 (GMT)

==DOS Classics is back!==
Good news: Xtraverse replied and put DOS Classics back online! Oh, and by the way, he already created a little PCKF [http://dosclassics.com/old/pckf/ archive] of sorts in the past - well, those topics can be quite... entertaining. ;-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:37, 30 November 2011 (GMT)
:Great news, good to have the site back. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:43, 30 November 2011 (GMT)
::In a second message, he thanks you for your offer to host DOS Classics, but he intends to keep up the site for "the long haul." DOS Classics was just offline due to a DNS error he forgot to fix. Anyway, yeah, it's great to have it back, I learned lots of Keen stuff at that place, and it got me into modding. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 20:06, 1 December 2011 (GMT)

== Another apology ==

Hey Malv. Recently, I made a couple of unnecessary double-edits on accident. Sorry if this irks you.-[[User:Xterra1|Xt]][[User talk:Xterra1|er]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|r]][[Special:Random|a1]] 04:29, 24 November 2011 (GMT)

== Source of creatures' names ==

Hello. I'm new here but I hope to be a good contributor :) What I'd like to know is where the names of the creatures from Keen Dreams and Keen 6 were found because Keen Dreams doesn't seem to list them all while Keen 6 doesn't even contain a help section and some of the names mentioned in Keen 6 user manual are different from the names listed here. Can you help? Levellass hasn't answered yet. [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 05:46, 4 February 2013 (GMT)

: Hi Saluton and welcome to the wiki! Things do move a little more slowly here so you might have to give people a week or two to respond :-) As far as I'm aware all the names are correct - if you can tell me which ones are wrong and let me know where the correct name is we will certainly fix it! Most of the names came from official sources like the manuals, while one or two were supplied by Tom Hall himself. I believe there are a few which have been named by fans lacking a more official source, but it should mention this on those creature pages. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 08:17, 4 February 2013 (GMT)
:: Sorry, I was wrong, the names in Keen 6 user manual and here do match, but I couldn't find a user manual for Keen Dreams. Where should I look? In any case, it's only better for all the wiki articles to refer to sources. :) [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 09:22, 4 February 2013 (GMT)

::: The rule so far is that the creature names come from the help text for Keens 1-5+Dreams and from the manual for Keen 6. Anything different and it's mentioned in the article. If you have a look at [[Keen Dreams Creatures]] it will tell you that the names come from the help text in version 1.0 of the game. This information was removed from later versions. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 10:49, 4 February 2013 (GMT)
:::: OK, I was wrong here, too :( but citations would still be useful. On another point, wouldn't it be better to combine those articles on creatures so that there's only one article per game? There can hardly be any information on most of the creatures anyway, apart from what they look like, how they move, and what they do. Most articles will forever be two- or three-paragraph stubs. [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 14:59, 5 February 2013 (GMT)

::::: I guess citations could be useful - they are already there on most if not all the Dreams pages, but there is a lot of more important work needed on all the mod pages so this is a fairly low priority for us. Combining the creatures onto a single page has already been done - each episode has a summary page for the creatures. But we decided long ago it was still worth having a dedicated page for each creature as that gives us more room for additional details, like which levels the creature appears in, bugs in its behaviour, tricks for avoiding it, and so on. It also makes it easier to link to creatures - otherwise we'd have dozens of redirect pages anyway. But likewise we also decided that mods should not have individual pages for each creature, as there would be thousands of unnecessary pages then. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 19:45, 5 February 2013 (GMT)

:::::: I see, thanks. Why is there no page on [[Bobby Prince]]? Was anything decided on that? [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 06:11, 7 February 2013 (GMT)

::::::: No, there has been no decision there. If you have some information about Bobby Prince related to Commander Keen, by all means go ahead and create a page for him. But if you're looking for things to do, there are [[Vorticon Mods|lots of]] [[Galaxy Mods|mods]] that don't have pages created yet, and each page needs infoboxes, screenshots, level lists, etc. This is where most of the work is being done at the moment. Have a look at [[Episode Null]] for what we're aiming for on each mod's page. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:03, 8 February 2013 (GMT)

:::::::: I don't think pages on the creators of Keen should only contain information related to Keen. To my mind, a proper encyclopedic article about a person should give a complete view of their biography even if it's in a Keen encyclopedia, but anyway, we'll see about that when I have enough time to actually edit articles. Thanks for this discussion :) [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 07:46, 11 February 2013 (GMT)

== Goodbye, Galaxy! ==

Why is there no punctuation in the title [[Goodbye Galaxy]]? [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 14:47, 11 February 2013 (GMT)

Fribbulus Xax

2013-02-11T13:23:00Z

Saluton: proofreading

{{Stub}}

[[Image:Ck6lv80.png|thumb|Map of Fribbulus Xax]]

'''Fribbulus Xax''' is the home planet of the [[Bloog]] and is the setting for [[Keen 6]]. It harbors a wide variety of native species, including Bloogs and [[Fleex]]es.

Fribbulus Xax is a fairly technologically advanced world, having produced an orbital space fortress, space station, and a variety of industries. However, the Bloogs themselves, though they built most of the cities and other buildings on the planet, are not particularly intelligent, and it was the Fleex who designed those buildings. As a result, many places on the planet are crudely built; this is seen in the haphazard bolting, poor paint jobs, and general irregularities that plague much of the world.

The overall biota seems to be fairly decent. There are overgrown, mutated and/or mixed creatures and plants, resemblant to those from Earth.

The industrial progress the native civilization of Fribbulus Xax has made to this point is remarkable, regarding the fact that the inhabitants seem to be a not very intelligent species. Curiously, most of the structures and items that can be found on Fribbulus Xax can be found on Earth as well (or at the very least resemble those from Earth).

This planet also bears the elements necessary for a human to survive there. There is water (a lake can be seen just as soon as one starts a new game), air (it does not seem as though Keen needs any breathing equipment) and also dry earth and sand. Plants are spread on the map, which means that the surface on Fribbulus Xax bears valuable minerals.

The song played while [[Keen]] is on the map is "[[Keen 6 Music|Aliens Ate My Babysitter]]".

== Keen GBC ==

Fribbulus Xax appears in [[Keen GBC]] where it is home to many aliens found in [[Keen 6]] and some other creatures unique to the game. It also strangely contains the [[Dopefish]], though this may be a different species of Dopefish from the one found in the [[Shadowlands]] as Keen GBC's Dopefish is much smaller. Fribbulus Xax in Keen GBC contains three levels:

* [[Blooglet Lake]]
* [[The Bobba Fortress]]
* [[Techno Lab]] (Boss level)

[[Category:Keen 6 levels]]
[[Category:Keen GBC levels]]
[[Category:Planets]]

Commander Keen

2013-02-11T13:19:31Z

Saluton: alien monsters

[[Image:Keen-r.png|left]]
[[Image:KeenUpClose.png|thumb|right|Keen up close]]

'''Commander Keen''', Billy Blaze by his real name (full name William Joseph Blazkowicz II<ref name="gen">[http://www.rinkworks.com/apogee/s/2.8.6.2.shtml Genealogy of Billy Blaze]</ref>), is an eight-year-old [[wikipedia:Child genius|child genius]] with an IQ of 314 (a reference to [[Wikipedia:Pi|Pi]] and one point less than his nemesis [[Mortimer McMire]]). With his extreme intelligence, Keen has been able to make several [[:Category:Keen's invention|inventions]] that he uses to aid himself in his adventures. His inventions are also an important part in each episode's story. Keen is also studying a fast-track college degree{{citation needed}}.

In his spare time, Keen defends the Universe and maintains the order of galactic laws. He travels intergalactic distances in his space ship, the [[Bean-with-Bacon Megarocket]], which he designed and built out of typical house-hold materials. When at home, he spends time in his [[Club House]], inventing things and scanning space with his [[Photachyon Transceiver]], which is also an invention of his.

Keen wears blue jeans, red converse, a purple T-shirt, and his older brother's yellow [[Wikipedia:Green Bay Packers|Green Bay Packers]] football helmet. He has brown hair and is of very pale complexion. He has the ability to jump quite high, and can reach even higher since he discovered the [[pogo stick]] on his trip to [[Mars]]. The pogo has since become his trademark move. Moreover, he has the ability to stay unharmed after jumping from any height (unless the surface is dangerous, i.e. fire, spikes, alien monsters etc.), and always lands on his feet.

Keen has a pet [[Yorp]] called [[Spot]]. He adopted it when he was first on [[Mars]]. He has a [[The Blaze Family|mother and father]], and an older brother and a younger sister. The age of his siblings is actually never revealed, however.

On his trips Keen, while knowing much already, also learns new things, such as [[Omnispeak]] that was taught to him by the [[Vorticon]]s, and the [[Standard Galactic Alphabet]] in [[Vorticon VI]]. Besides [[Earth]], some of the planets Keen has visited on his travels include [[Mars]], [[Vorticon VI]], [[Gnosticus IV]], [[Korath III]] and [[Fribbulus Xax]]. Keen is a friend of several alien races, including the [[Vorticon]]s and the [[Gnosticenes]] (who still owe Keen a favour).

== Appearance ==

Keen's appearance changes with each new adventure:

{{ObjectList1Col

| Object1 = Invasion of the Vorticons
| Image1 = Keen-vorticons-r.png
| Desc1 = Classic Keen, from the first trilogy.

| Object2 = Keen Dreams
| Image2 = Keen-dreams-r.png
| Desc2 = Modern Keen, in his pyjamas.

| Object3 = Goodbye, Galaxy!
| Image3 = Keen-r.png
| Desc3 = Modern Keen, from the second trilogy.

| Object4 = Game Boy Keen
| Link4 = Commander Keen (Game Boy Color game)
| Image4 = Keen-gbc-r.png
| Desc4 = Game Boy version of Commander Keen.
}}

== References ==
<references />

== See also ==
* [[The Blaze Family]]
* [[The McMire Family]]

[[Category:Human and humanlike beings]]
[[Category:Keeniverse]]
[[Category:The Blaze Family]]

Commander Keen

2013-02-11T13:17:23Z

Saluton: correct misprints, expand

[[Image:Keen-r.png|left]]
[[Image:KeenUpClose.png|thumb|right|Keen up close]]

'''Commander Keen''', Billy Blaze by his real name (full name William Joseph Blazkowicz II<ref name="gen">[http://www.rinkworks.com/apogee/s/2.8.6.2.shtml Genealogy of Billy Blaze]</ref>), is an eight-year-old [[wikipedia:Child genius|child genius]] with an IQ of 314 (a reference to [[Wikipedia:Pi|Pi]] and one point less than his nemesis [[Mortimer McMire]]). With his extreme intelligence, Keen has been able to make several [[:Category:Keen's invention|inventions]] that he uses to aid himself in his adventures. His inventions are also an important part in each episode's story. Keen is also studying a fast-track college degree{{citation needed}}.

In his spare time, Keen defends the Universe and maintains the order of galactic laws. He travels intergalactic distances in his space ship, the [[Bean-with-Bacon Megarocket]], which he designed and built out of typical house-hold materials. When at home, he spends time in his [[Club House]], inventing things and scanning space with his [[Photachyon Transceiver]], which is also an invention of his.

Keen wears blue jeans, red converse, a purple T-shirt, and his older brother's yellow [[Wikipedia:Green Bay Packers|Green Bay Packers]] football helmet. He has brown hair and is of very pale complexion. He has the ability to jump quite high, and can reach even higher since he discovered the [[pogo stick]] on his trip to [[Mars]]. The pogo has since become his trademark move. Moreover, he has the ability to stay unharmed after jumping from any height (unless the surface is dangerous, i.e. fire, spikes etc.), and always lands on his feet.

Keen has a pet [[Yorp]] called [[Spot]]. He adopted it when he was first on [[Mars]]. He has a [[The Blaze Family|mother and father]], and an older brother and a younger sister. The age of his siblings is actually never revealed, however.

On his trips Keen, while knowing much already, also learns new things, such as [[Omnispeak]] that was taught to him by the [[Vorticon]]s, and the [[Standard Galactic Alphabet]] in [[Vorticon VI]]. Besides [[Earth]], some of the planets Keen has visited on his travels include [[Mars]], [[Vorticon VI]], [[Gnosticus IV]], [[Korath III]] and [[Fribbulus Xax]]. Keen is a friend of several alien races, including the [[Vorticon]]s and the [[Gnosticenes]] (who still owe Keen a favour).

== Appearance ==

Keen's appearance changes with each new adventure:

{{ObjectList1Col

| Object1 = Invasion of the Vorticons
| Image1 = Keen-vorticons-r.png
| Desc1 = Classic Keen, from the first trilogy.

| Object2 = Keen Dreams
| Image2 = Keen-dreams-r.png
| Desc2 = Modern Keen, in his pyjamas.

| Object3 = Goodbye, Galaxy!
| Image3 = Keen-r.png
| Desc3 = Modern Keen, from the second trilogy.

| Object4 = Game Boy Keen
| Link4 = Commander Keen (Game Boy Color game)
| Image4 = Keen-gbc-r.png
| Desc4 = Game Boy version of Commander Keen.
}}

== References ==
<references />

== See also ==
* [[The Blaze Family]]
* [[The McMire Family]]

[[Category:Human and humanlike beings]]
[[Category:Keeniverse]]
[[Category:The Blaze Family]]

User talk:Malvineous

2013-02-11T07:46:14Z

Saluton: /* Source of creatures' names */

User talk:Malvineous

2013-02-07T06:20:00Z

Saluton: /* Source of creatures' names */

User talk:Malvineous

2013-02-07T06:11:13Z

Saluton: /* Source of creatures' names */ sorry

Been whined at by Lemm and assorted people, apparently the term 'sprite' applies to graphics only and the terms I should have been using for all the 'sprite' patch stuff is 'actor'; is there any way to systematically change the term 'sprite' in patch page titles (and maybe text) to 'actor'? If not, leave it, but if so, it might be something to think about. --[[User:Levellass|Levellass]] 02:41, 17 July 2011 (GMT)

: It is possible to do a bulk search and replace across pages, but the pages themselves will need to be renamed manually. [[User:DHeadshot]] has access to do this, perhaps you can ask him? If he renames pages when logged in as a bot, it's possible to avoid creating those redirect pages too. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 03:00, 17 July 2011 (GMT)

Hey, I'm not sure how, but I seem to have duplicated a page. Can you delete the incorrectly capitalized and less patched [[Patch:About id]]? You'll notice it only has text patches as opposed tot he bitmap and sprite patches on the new page. --[[User:Levellass|Levellass]]

: About id was the first patch page created while we were figuring out the syntax highlighting. I've deleted it in preference to About Id now! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 09:52, 19 March 2011 (GMT)

== ''More talk...'' ==

The older conversations on this page have been archived to keep the content current. To read the previous content on this page, please see:
* 2010-08: [http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/keen/index.php?title=User_talk:Malvineous&oldid=15924 revision 15924]
* 2008-04: [http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/keen/index.php?title=User_talk:Malvineous&oldid=9028 revision 9028]



== Jeez, have I been such an butt in the past? ==

Hey Malv. I've not been on in ages, and I was looking at some of my past edits. I have just realized I was acting a total ass, and you should have banned me for what I did. Your patience (and Shadow Master's) with me, legendary as it is, was stretched to the limit, and I'm sorry for what I did to this wiki, with that fiasco wih KeenRush, and me smarting off to you over the preview button and all. I was going through a rather hard period im my life then, and it shows--looking at the comments and such, it looks as if they were written by someone else. Again, I'd like to apologize for any discord I've caused this place. -[[User:Xterra1|Xt]][[User talk:Xterra1|er]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|r]][[Special:Random|a1]] 17:02, 19 November 2011 (GMT)

: Hey Xt - no worries, I figured it was something you would grow out of eventually ;-) -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 23:50, 19 November 2011 (GMT)

:: And I was looking at the [[Talk: Viva|Viva talkpage]] yesterday. "Xterra-ism". :-) At least I've gotten SOMETHING besides a Nissan SUV named after me. Again, I must compliment you on your patience with me. -[[User:Xterra1|Xt]][[User talk:Xterra1|er]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|r]][[Special:Random|a1]] 18:07, 20 November 2011 (GMT)

== Abandoned mods / level packs ==

Hello Malvineous. As I mentioned on [[Talk:Vorticon Mods#Missing_Download_links|Talk:Vorticon Mods]], I still have a few abandoned mods/level packs by different people that are not available for download anymore (at least according to the wiki). Various mods and packs have been directly uploaded to shikadi.net/wiki/, thus I sent one mod to Tulip who contributed a lot to the Vorticons Mods page. He replied two weeks ago, but since then no download has been added for "Mars Kingdoms", so I assume he is just too busy for editing. As you run this wiki, I wonder if I can also send them to you? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 09:48, 20 November 2011 (GMT)

: Sure, just e-mail them to malvineous@shikadi.net and I will upload them to shikadi.net/wiki/ if you'd be willing to add the necessary links to the article pages! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 10:27, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
::Great, I'll send them this day! :-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 11:46, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
:::Sent. The names of the zip files are those of the original downloads (if I remember correctly), rename them as you please. The mail includes demos of Redemption, Lord of the Rings (two demos), and Mars Kingdoms. There is also a beta of Bp's "mod" Marooned on Mars Forever, but I think it seems more like a level pack (no changed graphics, no patches and only minimal edits of the story text). What do you think? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 16:01, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
::::Not really sure, whatever you think is best would be fine. And thanks, I've put them into http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/files/Mods/abandoned/ so you can link to them directly there. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:24, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::Thanks a lot! I added Bp's work to level packs, as I think that changed titles in the story text do not really make it a mod. Anyway, I noticed that the various download links for dosclassics.com are not working anymore. I haven't been able to access the site for quite a while. Do you know anything? Does the site even exist anymore? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:09, 21 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::I haven't heard anything but as of a year ago it seemed to be online only for "nostalgic reasons" so I guess it's finally offline now. You could try contacting Xtraverse (xtraverse@hotmail.com) and see if he still has a copy of the site... -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 00:17, 22 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::Okay, I sent him a mail. I wonder, if he doesn't want to put the site online anymore, would it be possible to archive the site at shikadi.net just like CC314? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:35, 23 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::::Certainly I'm happy to do that, if Xtra is willing to send the files across or upload them to my server. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:56, 23 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::::Yeah, it would be great to keep that fine piece of Keen community history. By the way, the hotmail account seems to be inactive (I got "mailbox unavailable" as a response), so now I'm hoping that he'll answer the mail I sent to his @spatang.com address... --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:41, 24 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::::::Hi again. I sent you another abandoned mod, "Trouble on Xion 2" (Keen 4 this time). On a side note, the zip file for [[Trapped Keen]] includes the KEEN3.EXE, which should probably be removed. Also, no answer from Xtraverse yet. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 11:22, 26 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::::::Thanks, uploaded. Thanks also for pointing out keen3.exe, I have removed it from the zip. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 01:50, 27 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::::::::Darn, I guess I should have been more vigilant in copying the levels and mods over to the keenwiki server... -- [[User:Flaose|Flaose]] 04:01, 30 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::::::::Meh, you couldn't get the official Keen3 game out of it anyway thanks to the modifications, so it's more a courtesy to id than anything else :-) -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:18, 30 November 2011 (GMT)

==PCKF Archive==
Thanks again! On a side note, could you delete Norp3 title.png, please? But now something completely different: Maybe you have noticed that the old PCKF (its ezBoard incarnation) is not available in the Wayback Archive anymore since the Archive's new version was introduced. Due to the attack on ezBoard back in 2005, this means that basically all pre-2005 topics of the PCKF are lost now. I have basically not followed the community this year, do you know if there have been any reactions on this incident? The thing is, I saved a bunch of topics before the old Archive was taken down, and I'd like to send them over to someone who wants to turn that mess into something more comfortable on the web. But maybe I'm just late to the party and there already have been efforts to save the old PCKF. Has anything been said? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:55, 27 November 2011 (GMT)
: Done. And I'm not sure about the PCKF - after all those old topics were lost it seemed a bit hit and miss to save it. Plus it was all in HTML so it's difficult to convert - there was some discussion about importing all the topics into the current PCKF. I've also spent hardly any time at the PCKF for a long while, so I'm not sure what the mood is. I think many people who had topics then are no longer active, it seems to be quite a different group of people there now! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 07:16, 28 November 2011 (GMT)
::Okay, I see. I might create a topic on this issue in the PCKF this week (after a quick look, there still are quite a few of the "old ones", though). But if nobody has archived anything, would you mind to host certain topics I saved (of course, not every "W00t! 3000 Posts!!!111!1!" thing)? I might select interesting topics bit by bit - but first I have to know if that is even possible. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:01, 28 November 2011 (GMT)
:::Sure, but in that case it'll be easier to give you some webspace so you can manage it all yourself, if you're prepared to do so! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 23:21, 28 November 2011 (GMT)
::::Thanks for your offer! I'll create a topic in the PCKF first this weekend and see what others did (if anything), then I'll get back to you. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:27, 29 November 2011 (GMT)

I had talked with tulip per mail the last few days. According to him, there was nothing on the forum about archiving the ezBoard, and as he is one of the most active members, that has to be the truth. I created a thread nonetheless, but I don't expect much. So I'd greatly appreciate if you really gave me some webspace. :-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 18:27, 6 December 2011 (GMT)

Hello. I neither have mail nor FTP access right now, so could you write your answer on my last mail at this place (in case you already responded)? Also, could you do me a really big favour and make a little edit to the index.htm of the PCKF Archive? Actually, I finally wanted to post, but today I noticed that the page is incorretly displayed in certain browsers due to a little error on my side. Please change

<nowiki>PCKF Archive</a></nowiki>

to

<nowiki>PCKF Archive</nowiki>

and it should be fixed. Thanks in advance! :-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 20:05, 22 January 2012 (GMT)

: Done. There was a suspected intrusion on my web host, so my provider reset everyone's passwords as a precaution. Your new password is in your e-mail. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:39, 22 January 2012 (GMT)
:: Thank you! :-D --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 21:06, 29 January 2012 (GMT)

==DOS Classics is back!==
Good news: Xtraverse replied and put DOS Classics back online! Oh, and by the way, he already created a little PCKF [http://dosclassics.com/old/pckf/ archive] of sorts in the past - well, those topics can be quite... entertaining. ;-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:37, 30 November 2011 (GMT)
:Great news, good to have the site back. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:43, 30 November 2011 (GMT)
::In a second message, he thanks you for your offer to host DOS Classics, but he intends to keep up the site for "the long haul." DOS Classics was just offline due to a DNS error he forgot to fix. Anyway, yeah, it's great to have it back, I learned lots of Keen stuff at that place, and it got me into modding. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 20:06, 1 December 2011 (GMT)

== Another apology ==

Hey Malv. Recently, I made a couple of unnecessary double-edits on accident. Sorry if this irks you.-[[User:Xterra1|Xt]][[User talk:Xterra1|er]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|r]][[Special:Random|a1]] 04:29, 24 November 2011 (GMT)

== Source of creatures' names ==

Hello. I'm new here but I hope to be a good contributor :) What I'd like to know is where the names of the creatures from Keen Dreams and Keen 6 were found because Keen Dreams doesn't seem to list them all while Keen 6 doesn't even contain a help section and some of the names mentioned in Keen 6 user manual are different from the names listed here. Can you help? Levellass hasn't answered yet. [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 05:46, 4 February 2013 (GMT)

: Hi Saluton and welcome to the wiki! Things do move a little more slowly here so you might have to give people a week or two to respond :-) As far as I'm aware all the names are correct - if you can tell me which ones are wrong and let me know where the correct name is we will certainly fix it! Most of the names came from official sources like the manuals, while one or two were supplied by Tom Hall himself. I believe there are a few which have been named by fans lacking a more official source, but it should mention this on those creature pages. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 08:17, 4 February 2013 (GMT)
:: Sorry, I was wrong, the names in Keen 6 user manual and here do match, but I couldn't find a user manual for Keen Dreams. Where should I look? In any case, it's only better for all the wiki articles to refer to sources. :) [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 09:22, 4 February 2013 (GMT)

::: The rule so far is that the creature names come from the help text for Keens 1-5+Dreams and from the manual for Keen 6. Anything different and it's mentioned in the article. If you have a look at [[Keen Dreams Creatures]] it will tell you that the names come from the help text in version 1.0 of the game. This information was removed from later versions. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 10:49, 4 February 2013 (GMT)
:::: OK, I was wrong here, too :( but citations would still be useful. On another point, wouldn't it be better to combine those articles on creatures so that there's only one article per game? There can hardly be any information on most of the creatures anyway, apart from what they look like, how they move, and what they do. Most articles will forever be two- or three-paragraph stubs. [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 14:59, 5 February 2013 (GMT)

::::: I guess citations could be useful - they are already there on most if not all the Dreams pages, but there is a lot of more important work needed on all the mod pages so this is a fairly low priority for us. Combining the creatures onto a single page has already been done - each episode has a summary page for the creatures. But we decided long ago it was still worth having a dedicated page for each creature as that gives us more room for additional details, like which levels the creature appears in, bugs in its behaviour, tricks for avoiding it, and so on. It also makes it easier to link to creatures - otherwise we'd have dozens of redirect pages anyway. But likewise we also decided that mods should not have individual pages for each creature, as there would be thousands of unnecessary pages then. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 19:45, 5 February 2013 (GMT)

:::::: I see, thanks. Why is there no page on Bobby Prince? Was anything decided on that? [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 06:11, 7 February 2013 (GMT)

User talk:Malvineous

2013-02-07T06:08:54Z

Saluton: /* Source of creatures' names */

Been whined at by Lemm and assorted people, apparently the term 'sprite' applies to graphics only and the terms I should have been using for all the 'sprite' patch stuff is 'actor'; is there any way to systematically change the term 'sprite' in patch page titles (and maybe text) to 'actor'? If not, leave it, but if so, it might be something to think about. --[[User:Levellass|Levellass]] 02:41, 17 July 2011 (GMT)

: It is possible to do a bulk search and replace across pages, but the pages themselves will need to be renamed manually. [[User:DHeadshot]] has access to do this, perhaps you can ask him? If he renames pages when logged in as a bot, it's possible to avoid creating those redirect pages too. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 03:00, 17 July 2011 (GMT)

Hey, I'm not sure how, but I seem to have duplicated a page. Can you delete the incorrectly capitalized and less patched [[Patch:About id]]? You'll notice it only has text patches as opposed tot he bitmap and sprite patches on the new page. --[[User:Levellass|Levellass]]

: About id was the first patch page created while we were figuring out the syntax highlighting. I've deleted it in preference to About Id now! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 09:52, 19 March 2011 (GMT)

== ''More talk...'' ==

The older conversations on this page have been archived to keep the content current. To read the previous content on this page, please see:
* 2010-08: [http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/keen/index.php?title=User_talk:Malvineous&oldid=15924 revision 15924]
* 2008-04: [http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/keen/index.php?title=User_talk:Malvineous&oldid=9028 revision 9028]



== Jeez, have I been such an butt in the past? ==

Hey Malv. I've not been on in ages, and I was looking at some of my past edits. I have just realized I was acting a total ass, and you should have banned me for what I did. Your patience (and Shadow Master's) with me, legendary as it is, was stretched to the limit, and I'm sorry for what I did to this wiki, with that fiasco wih KeenRush, and me smarting off to you over the preview button and all. I was going through a rather hard period im my life then, and it shows--looking at the comments and such, it looks as if they were written by someone else. Again, I'd like to apologize for any discord I've caused this place. -[[User:Xterra1|Xt]][[User talk:Xterra1|er]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|r]][[Special:Random|a1]] 17:02, 19 November 2011 (GMT)

: Hey Xt - no worries, I figured it was something you would grow out of eventually ;-) -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 23:50, 19 November 2011 (GMT)

:: And I was looking at the [[Talk: Viva|Viva talkpage]] yesterday. "Xterra-ism". :-) At least I've gotten SOMETHING besides a Nissan SUV named after me. Again, I must compliment you on your patience with me. -[[User:Xterra1|Xt]][[User talk:Xterra1|er]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|r]][[Special:Random|a1]] 18:07, 20 November 2011 (GMT)

== Abandoned mods / level packs ==

Hello Malvineous. As I mentioned on [[Talk:Vorticon Mods#Missing_Download_links|Talk:Vorticon Mods]], I still have a few abandoned mods/level packs by different people that are not available for download anymore (at least according to the wiki). Various mods and packs have been directly uploaded to shikadi.net/wiki/, thus I sent one mod to Tulip who contributed a lot to the Vorticons Mods page. He replied two weeks ago, but since then no download has been added for "Mars Kingdoms", so I assume he is just too busy for editing. As you run this wiki, I wonder if I can also send them to you? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 09:48, 20 November 2011 (GMT)

: Sure, just e-mail them to malvineous@shikadi.net and I will upload them to shikadi.net/wiki/ if you'd be willing to add the necessary links to the article pages! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 10:27, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
::Great, I'll send them this day! :-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 11:46, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
:::Sent. The names of the zip files are those of the original downloads (if I remember correctly), rename them as you please. The mail includes demos of Redemption, Lord of the Rings (two demos), and Mars Kingdoms. There is also a beta of Bp's "mod" Marooned on Mars Forever, but I think it seems more like a level pack (no changed graphics, no patches and only minimal edits of the story text). What do you think? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 16:01, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
::::Not really sure, whatever you think is best would be fine. And thanks, I've put them into http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/files/Mods/abandoned/ so you can link to them directly there. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:24, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::Thanks a lot! I added Bp's work to level packs, as I think that changed titles in the story text do not really make it a mod. Anyway, I noticed that the various download links for dosclassics.com are not working anymore. I haven't been able to access the site for quite a while. Do you know anything? Does the site even exist anymore? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:09, 21 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::I haven't heard anything but as of a year ago it seemed to be online only for "nostalgic reasons" so I guess it's finally offline now. You could try contacting Xtraverse (xtraverse@hotmail.com) and see if he still has a copy of the site... -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 00:17, 22 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::Okay, I sent him a mail. I wonder, if he doesn't want to put the site online anymore, would it be possible to archive the site at shikadi.net just like CC314? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:35, 23 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::::Certainly I'm happy to do that, if Xtra is willing to send the files across or upload them to my server. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:56, 23 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::::Yeah, it would be great to keep that fine piece of Keen community history. By the way, the hotmail account seems to be inactive (I got "mailbox unavailable" as a response), so now I'm hoping that he'll answer the mail I sent to his @spatang.com address... --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:41, 24 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::::::Hi again. I sent you another abandoned mod, "Trouble on Xion 2" (Keen 4 this time). On a side note, the zip file for [[Trapped Keen]] includes the KEEN3.EXE, which should probably be removed. Also, no answer from Xtraverse yet. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 11:22, 26 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::::::Thanks, uploaded. Thanks also for pointing out keen3.exe, I have removed it from the zip. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 01:50, 27 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::::::::Darn, I guess I should have been more vigilant in copying the levels and mods over to the keenwiki server... -- [[User:Flaose|Flaose]] 04:01, 30 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::::::::Meh, you couldn't get the official Keen3 game out of it anyway thanks to the modifications, so it's more a courtesy to id than anything else :-) -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:18, 30 November 2011 (GMT)

==PCKF Archive==
Thanks again! On a side note, could you delete Norp3 title.png, please? But now something completely different: Maybe you have noticed that the old PCKF (its ezBoard incarnation) is not available in the Wayback Archive anymore since the Archive's new version was introduced. Due to the attack on ezBoard back in 2005, this means that basically all pre-2005 topics of the PCKF are lost now. I have basically not followed the community this year, do you know if there have been any reactions on this incident? The thing is, I saved a bunch of topics before the old Archive was taken down, and I'd like to send them over to someone who wants to turn that mess into something more comfortable on the web. But maybe I'm just late to the party and there already have been efforts to save the old PCKF. Has anything been said? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:55, 27 November 2011 (GMT)
: Done. And I'm not sure about the PCKF - after all those old topics were lost it seemed a bit hit and miss to save it. Plus it was all in HTML so it's difficult to convert - there was some discussion about importing all the topics into the current PCKF. I've also spent hardly any time at the PCKF for a long while, so I'm not sure what the mood is. I think many people who had topics then are no longer active, it seems to be quite a different group of people there now! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 07:16, 28 November 2011 (GMT)
::Okay, I see. I might create a topic on this issue in the PCKF this week (after a quick look, there still are quite a few of the "old ones", though). But if nobody has archived anything, would you mind to host certain topics I saved (of course, not every "W00t! 3000 Posts!!!111!1!" thing)? I might select interesting topics bit by bit - but first I have to know if that is even possible. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:01, 28 November 2011 (GMT)
:::Sure, but in that case it'll be easier to give you some webspace so you can manage it all yourself, if you're prepared to do so! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 23:21, 28 November 2011 (GMT)
::::Thanks for your offer! I'll create a topic in the PCKF first this weekend and see what others did (if anything), then I'll get back to you. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:27, 29 November 2011 (GMT)

I had talked with tulip per mail the last few days. According to him, there was nothing on the forum about archiving the ezBoard, and as he is one of the most active members, that has to be the truth. I created a thread nonetheless, but I don't expect much. So I'd greatly appreciate if you really gave me some webspace. :-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 18:27, 6 December 2011 (GMT)

Hello. I neither have mail nor FTP access right now, so could you write your answer on my last mail at this place (in case you already responded)? Also, could you do me a really big favour and make a little edit to the index.htm of the PCKF Archive? Actually, I finally wanted to post, but today I noticed that the page is incorretly displayed in certain browsers due to a little error on my side. Please change

<nowiki>PCKF Archive</a></nowiki>

to

<nowiki>PCKF Archive</nowiki>

and it should be fixed. Thanks in advance! :-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 20:05, 22 January 2012 (GMT)

: Done. There was a suspected intrusion on my web host, so my provider reset everyone's passwords as a precaution. Your new password is in your e-mail. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:39, 22 January 2012 (GMT)
:: Thank you! :-D --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 21:06, 29 January 2012 (GMT)

==DOS Classics is back!==
Good news: Xtraverse replied and put DOS Classics back online! Oh, and by the way, he already created a little PCKF [http://dosclassics.com/old/pckf/ archive] of sorts in the past - well, those topics can be quite... entertaining. ;-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:37, 30 November 2011 (GMT)
:Great news, good to have the site back. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:43, 30 November 2011 (GMT)
::In a second message, he thanks you for your offer to host DOS Classics, but he intends to keep up the site for "the long haul." DOS Classics was just offline due to a DNS error he forgot to fix. Anyway, yeah, it's great to have it back, I learned lots of Keen stuff at that place, and it got me into modding. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 20:06, 1 December 2011 (GMT)

== Another apology ==

Hey Malv. Recently, I made a couple of unnecessary double-edits on accident. Sorry if this irks you.-[[User:Xterra1|Xt]][[User talk:Xterra1|er]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|r]][[Special:Random|a1]] 04:29, 24 November 2011 (GMT)

== Source of creatures' names ==

Hello. I'm new here but I hope to be a good contributor :) What I'd like to know is where the names of the creatures from Keen Dreams and Keen 6 were found because Keen Dreams doesn't seem to list them all while Keen 6 doesn't even contain a help section and some of the names mentioned in Keen 6 user manual are different from the names listed here. Can you help? Levellass hasn't answered yet. [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 05:46, 4 February 2013 (GMT)

: Hi Saluton and welcome to the wiki! Things do move a little more slowly here so you might have to give people a week or two to respond :-) As far as I'm aware all the names are correct - if you can tell me which ones are wrong and let me know where the correct name is we will certainly fix it! Most of the names came from official sources like the manuals, while one or two were supplied by Tom Hall himself. I believe there are a few which have been named by fans lacking a more official source, but it should mention this on those creature pages. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 08:17, 4 February 2013 (GMT)
:: Sorry, I was wrong, the names in Keen 6 user manual and here do match, but I couldn't find a user manual for Keen Dreams. Where should I look? In any case, it's only better for all the wiki articles to refer to sources. :) [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 09:22, 4 February 2013 (GMT)

::: The rule so far is that the creature names come from the help text for Keens 1-5+Dreams and from the manual for Keen 6. Anything different and it's mentioned in the article. If you have a look at [[Keen Dreams Creatures]] it will tell you that the names come from the help text in version 1.0 of the game. This information was removed from later versions. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 10:49, 4 February 2013 (GMT)
:::: OK, I was wrong here, too :( but citations would still be useful. On another point, wouldn't it be better to combine those articles on creatures so that there's only one article per game? There can hardly be any information on most of the creatures anyway, apart from what they look like, how they move, and what they do. Most articles will forever be two- or three-paragraph stubs. [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 14:59, 5 February 2013 (GMT)

::::: I guess citations could be useful - they are already there on most if not all the Dreams pages, but there is a lot of more important work needed on all the mod pages so this is a fairly low priority for us. Combining the creatures onto a single page has already been done - each episode has a summary page for the creatures. But we decided long ago it was still worth having a dedicated page for each creature as that gives us more room for additional details, like which levels the creature appears in, bugs in its behaviour, tricks for avoiding it, and so on. It also makes it easier to link to creatures - otherwise we'd have dozens of redirect pages anyway. But likewise we also decided that mods should not have individual pages for each creature, as there would be thousands of unnecessary pages then. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 19:45, 5 February 2013 (GMT)

:::::: I see, thanks. Why aren't there any pages on the people who created the Keen series? Was anything decided on that? [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 06:08, 7 February 2013 (GMT)

User talk:Malvineous

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User talk:Levellass

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Saluton: /* Source of creatures' names */

Hi Levelass - any reponse to [[Talk:Asparagusto|this]]? -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 07:02, 13 July 2007 (GMT)

No, I have even less idea now what bug or not I thought they had, sorry. --[[User:Levellass|Levellass]] 11:05, 12 July 2010 (GMT)

== Edit summaries ==
Hey Levellass - when you edit a page, could you please put something in the summary field before submitting? Doing that makes it a lot easier to see what's going on when browsing the [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent Changes]] list. It doesn't have to be much, something like "More info", "Typo", "Spelling" or whatever is fine. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 03:11, 28 January 2007 (GMT)

Sorry, I keep forgetting. (message written by [[User:Levellass|Levellass]] a few minutes ago) --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 18:42, 6 July 2007 (GMT)

== Signing messages ==
Also try to use the toolbar button with the signature icon in it for signing your talk page messages before submitting your replies, so that we know who wrote that interesting paragraph. Or put the following at the end of your messages manually if you have trouble with the wiki edit toolbar:
<nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>
Just a suggestion. --[[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 16:25, 10 July 2007 (GMT)

Levellass- PLEASE sign messages in talk pages-just use four tildes! Like this- <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>--[[User:Xterra1|Xterra1]] 17:33, 11 July 2007 (GMT)

:Nah, stuff it, I like to annoy and confuse and make things worse for everyone.--[[User:Levellass|Levellass]] 17:38, 11 July 2007 (GMT)

::Little joker.....--[[User:Xterra1|Xterra1]] 17:42, 11 July 2007 (GMT)

:::Actually, I only just figured out how the ---- you do this stuff, there are too many buttons, all I can do is write!--[[User:Levellass|Levellass]] 17:45, 11 July 2007 (GMT)

::::Levellass.........no expletives!--[[User:Xterra1|Xterra1]] 17:47, 11 July 2007 (GMT)

:::::Gosh, what did I write? I'm sure it was just 'hell' I'm so sorry!--[[User:Levellass|Levellass]] 17:49, 11 July 2007 (GMT)

::::::I had to blank it out, rules are rules.--[[User:Xterra1|Xterra1]] 18:14, 11 July 2007 (GMT)

:::::::Wow, who knew? I suppose that's right, you Americans are real stiff when it comes to religion. This is why I don't post much.--[[User:Levellass|Levellass]] 18:23, 11 July 2007 (GMT)

::::::::Not religion,wiki rules!--[[User:Xterra1|Xterra1]] 18:55, 11 July 2007 (GMT)

::::::::Well this wiki is run by an Australian, with British and Chilean moderators, so feel free to post some more ;-) (btw I wouldn't consider that word an expletive, but each to their own I guess.) -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 01:21, 12 July 2007 (GMT)

== Automatic syntax highlighting ==

Hi Levellass - I just realised you seem to be manually entering in all the <nowiki></nowiki> tags to syntax highlight the patches! This isn't necessary, you can just enclose each patch in <nowiki><patch title="xyz"></patch></nowiki> tags which will take care of the highlighting for you (see [[Patch:About id]] for how it comes out.) Since this is a custom add-on to the wiki, if it doesn't work properly or you want additional features (like being able to highlight certain bytes) just let me know and I will add it. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 08:08, 12 July 2010 (GMT)

== Patch basics ==

Hey Levellass, I've just created [[Patches|a page]] on the basics of reading patches, specifically your patches. I was wondering if you could look it over and fix any mistakes or outright lies that I may have made; my knowledge of patching is extremely weak (for example I have no idea why some of your 16-bit integers are blue and some are orange, I'm sure the difference is important, I just can't figure it out). Thanks! -[[User:Flaose|Flaose]] 07:05, 14 March 2011 (GMT)

== Page naming ==

Hi Levellass - when you create pages with a note in brackets, can you please put a space before the bracket? I know it's only minor, but it looks weird when the universal wiki standard is "Pagename (info)" and half your pages are "Pagename(info)" ;-) -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 04:45, 2 April 2011 (GMT)

:Hey, I'd notcied that, I've done t three times I'm aware of but wasn't quite sure what to do. It shouldn't happen in future. --[[User:Levellass|Levellass]] 09:02, 2 April 2011 (GMT)

== Blank lines before headings ==

Hi Levellass - could you please try to avoid adding an extra space before the <tt><nowiki>== section headings ==</nowiki></tt> in each page? It causes a large gap to appear before the heading which goes against the standard MediaWiki style. If you think the headings are too close together, you can edit your own custom style to put more space between them, and this will affect all pages without needing to do any editing. Thanks! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 13:54, 19 August 2012 (GMT)
:Hey there! I was going by our office's style of doing things, one line space between paragraphs, two between paragraphs and headings. I was unaware that this was not wiki policy. Will all the pages be reverted? --05:48, 20 August 2012 (GMT)

:: I reverted those changes on the most recent pages, but if you could remove the extra lines as you see them that would be great. The problem is that the wiki software automatically inserts extra space between paragraphs and before headings, according to the site style (the idea being if you don't like it, you adjust the site style and you don't need to edit any pages.) Because of this, the wiki software treats extra blank lines as if they were paragraphs, and puts extra space around them when generating the HTML view of each article. By putting two blank lines before a heading, you are effectively putting an empty, invisible paragraph before each heading (which has its own space around it, even though it's invisible.) Going by your office style, this is like putting three blank lines before each heading (the normal two, plus an extra one before the invisible paragraph.) Just as you'd be going against your office style by putting three blank lines before a heading, likewise putting two lines before a wiki heading is going against the wiki style for exactly the same reason. I hope this helps explain it! [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 01:01, 30 August 2012 (GMT)
:::Righto, got it now! I shall endeavor to remove any double lines from the main wiki pages as I stumble across them. I imagine the problem would have been lessened if more people edited the wiki. --[[User:Levellass|Always so much to do!]] 01:12, 30 August 2012 (GMT)

:::: Quite possibly - and thanks! On that note, I have to say, I'm continually amazed by how much work you put in to the patch pages. It's very impressive. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:51, 30 August 2012 (GMT)

== Source of creatures' names ==

Hello. I'm new here but I hope to be a good contributor :) What I'd like to know is where the names of the creatures from Keen Dreams and Keen 6 were found because Keen Dreams doesn't seem to list them all while Keen 6 doesn't even contain a help section and some of the names mentioned in Keen 6 user manual are different from the names listed here. Can you help? [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 13:22, 3 February 2013 (GMT)
: That's a good question and there is no one clear answer. Some names like the Treasure Eater were confirmed via emails to Id staff (Mostly Tom Hall.) Others were taken from the game manuals while still others are community lore or taken from external sources. This seems to be quite a problematic issue and I think a topic on the PCKF tracking down all creature name origins and thus letting us insert citations for them (And correct article names where necessary.) is in order.
:: Before you answered, I already have [[User_talk:Malvineous#Source of creatures' names|spoken to Malvineous]] about it. Thanks. [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 05:22, 5 February 2013 (GMT)

User talk:Malvineous

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Saluton: /* Source of creatures' names */

User talk:Malvineous

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User talk:Levellass

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Saluton: /* Source of creatures' names */ new section