User talk:Malvineous

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T-Squared: /* About my Cosmo Mod */ new section

Been whined at by Lemm and assorted people, apparently the term 'sprite' applies to graphics only and the terms I should have been using for all the 'sprite' patch stuff is 'actor'; is there any way to systematically change the term 'sprite' in patch page titles (and maybe text) to 'actor'? If not, leave it, but if so, it might be something to think about. --[[User:Levellass|Levellass]] 02:41, 17 July 2011 (GMT)

: It is possible to do a bulk search and replace across pages, but the pages themselves will need to be renamed manually. [[User:DHeadshot]] has access to do this, perhaps you can ask him? If he renames pages when logged in as a bot, it's possible to avoid creating those redirect pages too. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 03:00, 17 July 2011 (GMT)

== ''More talk...'' ==

The older conversations on this page have been archived to keep the content current. To read the previous content on this page, please see:
* 2010-08: [http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/keen/index.php?title=User_talk:Malvineous&oldid=15924 revision 15924]
* 2008-04: [http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/keen/index.php?title=User_talk:Malvineous&oldid=9028 revision 9028]



== Jeez, have I been such an butt in the past? ==

Hey Malv. I've not been on in ages, and I was looking at some of my past edits. I have just realized I was acting a total ass, and you should have banned me for what I did. Your patience (and Shadow Master's) with me, legendary as it is, was stretched to the limit, and I'm sorry for what I did to this wiki, with that fiasco wih KeenRush, and me smarting off to you over the preview button and all. I was going through a rather hard period im my life then, and it shows--looking at the comments and such, it looks as if they were written by someone else. Again, I'd like to apologize for any discord I've caused this place. -[[User:Xterra1|Xt]][[User talk:Xterra1|er]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|r]][[Special:Random|a1]] 17:02, 19 November 2011 (GMT)

: Hey Xt - no worries, I figured it was something you would grow out of eventually ;-) -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 23:50, 19 November 2011 (GMT)

:: And I was looking at the [[Talk: Viva|Viva talkpage]] yesterday. "Xterra-ism". :-) At least I've gotten SOMETHING besides a Nissan SUV named after me. Again, I must compliment you on your patience with me. -[[User:Xterra1|Xt]][[User talk:Xterra1|er]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|r]][[Special:Random|a1]] 18:07, 20 November 2011 (GMT)

== Abandoned mods / level packs ==

Hello Malvineous. As I mentioned on [[Talk:Vorticon Mods#Missing_Download_links|Talk:Vorticon Mods]], I still have a few abandoned mods/level packs by different people that are not available for download anymore (at least according to the wiki). Various mods and packs have been directly uploaded to shikadi.net/wiki/, thus I sent one mod to Tulip who contributed a lot to the Vorticons Mods page. He replied two weeks ago, but since then no download has been added for "Mars Kingdoms", so I assume he is just too busy for editing. As you run this wiki, I wonder if I can also send them to you? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 09:48, 20 November 2011 (GMT)

: Sure, just e-mail them to malvineous@shikadi.net and I will upload them to shikadi.net/wiki/ if you'd be willing to add the necessary links to the article pages! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 10:27, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
::Great, I'll send them this day! :-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 11:46, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
:::Sent. The names of the zip files are those of the original downloads (if I remember correctly), rename them as you please. The mail includes demos of Redemption, Lord of the Rings (two demos), and Mars Kingdoms. There is also a beta of Bp's "mod" Marooned on Mars Forever, but I think it seems more like a level pack (no changed graphics, no patches and only minimal edits of the story text). What do you think? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 16:01, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
::::Not really sure, whatever you think is best would be fine. And thanks, I've put them into http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/files/Mods/abandoned/ so you can link to them directly there. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:24, 20 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::Thanks a lot! I added Bp's work to level packs, as I think that changed titles in the story text do not really make it a mod. Anyway, I noticed that the various download links for dosclassics.com are not working anymore. I haven't been able to access the site for quite a while. Do you know anything? Does the site even exist anymore? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:09, 21 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::I haven't heard anything but as of a year ago it seemed to be online only for "nostalgic reasons" so I guess it's finally offline now. You could try contacting Xtraverse (xtraverse@hotmail.com) and see if he still has a copy of the site... -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 00:17, 22 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::Okay, I sent him a mail. I wonder, if he doesn't want to put the site online anymore, would it be possible to archive the site at shikadi.net just like CC314? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:35, 23 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::::Certainly I'm happy to do that, if Xtra is willing to send the files across or upload them to my server. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:56, 23 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::::Yeah, it would be great to keep that fine piece of Keen community history. By the way, the hotmail account seems to be inactive (I got "mailbox unavailable" as a response), so now I'm hoping that he'll answer the mail I sent to his @spatang.com address... --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:41, 24 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::::::Hi again. I sent you another abandoned mod, "Trouble on Xion 2" (Keen 4 this time). On a side note, the zip file for [[Trapped Keen]] includes the KEEN3.EXE, which should probably be removed. Also, no answer from Xtraverse yet. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 11:22, 26 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::::::Thanks, uploaded. Thanks also for pointing out keen3.exe, I have removed it from the zip. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 01:50, 27 November 2011 (GMT)
::::::::::::Darn, I guess I should have been more vigilant in copying the levels and mods over to the keenwiki server... -- [[User:Flaose|Flaose]] 04:01, 30 November 2011 (GMT)
:::::::::::::Meh, you couldn't get the official Keen3 game out of it anyway thanks to the modifications, so it's more a courtesy to id than anything else :-) -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:18, 30 November 2011 (GMT)

==PCKF Archive==
Thanks again! On a side note, could you delete Norp3 title.png, please? But now something completely different: Maybe you have noticed that the old PCKF (its ezBoard incarnation) is not available in the Wayback Archive anymore since the Archive's new version was introduced. Due to the attack on ezBoard back in 2005, this means that basically all pre-2005 topics of the PCKF are lost now. I have basically not followed the community this year, do you know if there have been any reactions on this incident? The thing is, I saved a bunch of topics before the old Archive was taken down, and I'd like to send them over to someone who wants to turn that mess into something more comfortable on the web. But maybe I'm just late to the party and there already have been efforts to save the old PCKF. Has anything been said? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:55, 27 November 2011 (GMT)
: Done. And I'm not sure about the PCKF - after all those old topics were lost it seemed a bit hit and miss to save it. Plus it was all in HTML so it's difficult to convert - there was some discussion about importing all the topics into the current PCKF. I've also spent hardly any time at the PCKF for a long while, so I'm not sure what the mood is. I think many people who had topics then are no longer active, it seems to be quite a different group of people there now! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 07:16, 28 November 2011 (GMT)
::Okay, I see. I might create a topic on this issue in the PCKF this week (after a quick look, there still are quite a few of the "old ones", though). But if nobody has archived anything, would you mind to host certain topics I saved (of course, not every "W00t! 3000 Posts!!!111!1!" thing)? I might select interesting topics bit by bit - but first I have to know if that is even possible. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:01, 28 November 2011 (GMT)
:::Sure, but in that case it'll be easier to give you some webspace so you can manage it all yourself, if you're prepared to do so! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 23:21, 28 November 2011 (GMT)
::::Thanks for your offer! I'll create a topic in the PCKF first this weekend and see what others did (if anything), then I'll get back to you. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:27, 29 November 2011 (GMT)

I had talked with tulip per mail the last few days. According to him, there was nothing on the forum about archiving the ezBoard, and as he is one of the most active members, that has to be the truth. I created a thread nonetheless, but I don't expect much. So I'd greatly appreciate if you really gave me some webspace. :-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 18:27, 6 December 2011 (GMT)

Hello. I neither have mail nor FTP access right now, so could you write your answer on my last mail at this place (in case you already responded)? Also, could you do me a really big favour and make a little edit to the index.htm of the PCKF Archive? Actually, I finally wanted to post, but today I noticed that the page is incorretly displayed in certain browsers due to a little error on my side. Please change

<nowiki>PCKF Archive</a></nowiki>

to

<nowiki>PCKF Archive</nowiki>

and it should be fixed. Thanks in advance! :-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 20:05, 22 January 2012 (GMT)

: Done. There was a suspected intrusion on my web host, so my provider reset everyone's passwords as a precaution. Your new password is in your e-mail. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:39, 22 January 2012 (GMT)
:: Thank you! :-D --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 21:06, 29 January 2012 (GMT)

==DOS Classics is back!==
Good news: Xtraverse replied and put DOS Classics back online! Oh, and by the way, he already created a little PCKF [http://dosclassics.com/old/pckf/ archive] of sorts in the past - well, those topics can be quite... entertaining. ;-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:37, 30 November 2011 (GMT)
:Great news, good to have the site back. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:43, 30 November 2011 (GMT)
::In a second message, he thanks you for your offer to host DOS Classics, but he intends to keep up the site for "the long haul." DOS Classics was just offline due to a DNS error he forgot to fix. Anyway, yeah, it's great to have it back, I learned lots of Keen stuff at that place, and it got me into modding. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 20:06, 1 December 2011 (GMT)

== Another apology ==

Hey Malv. Recently, I made a couple of unnecessary double-edits on accident. Sorry if this irks you.-[[User:Xterra1|Xt]][[User talk:Xterra1|er]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|r]][[Special:Random|a1]] 04:29, 24 November 2011 (GMT)

== Source of creatures' names ==

Hello. I'm new here but I hope to be a good contributor :) What I'd like to know is where the names of the creatures from Keen Dreams and Keen 6 were found because Keen Dreams doesn't seem to list them all while Keen 6 doesn't even contain a help section and some of the names mentioned in Keen 6 user manual are different from the names listed here. Can you help? Levellass hasn't answered yet. [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 05:46, 4 February 2013 (GMT)

: Hi Saluton and welcome to the wiki! Things do move a little more slowly here so you might have to give people a week or two to respond :-) As far as I'm aware all the names are correct - if you can tell me which ones are wrong and let me know where the correct name is we will certainly fix it! Most of the names came from official sources like the manuals, while one or two were supplied by Tom Hall himself. I believe there are a few which have been named by fans lacking a more official source, but it should mention this on those creature pages. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 08:17, 4 February 2013 (GMT)
:: Sorry, I was wrong, the names in Keen 6 user manual and here do match, but I couldn't find a user manual for Keen Dreams. Where should I look? In any case, it's only better for all the wiki articles to refer to sources. :) [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 09:22, 4 February 2013 (GMT)

::: The rule so far is that the creature names come from the help text for Keens 1-5+Dreams and from the manual for Keen 6. Anything different and it's mentioned in the article. If you have a look at [[Keen Dreams Creatures]] it will tell you that the names come from the help text in version 1.0 of the game. This information was removed from later versions. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 10:49, 4 February 2013 (GMT)
:::: OK, I was wrong here, too :( but citations would still be useful. On another point, wouldn't it be better to combine those articles on creatures so that there's only one article per game? There can hardly be any information on most of the creatures anyway, apart from what they look like, how they move, and what they do. Most articles will forever be two- or three-paragraph stubs. [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 14:59, 5 February 2013 (GMT)

::::: I guess citations could be useful - they are already there on most if not all the Dreams pages, but there is a lot of more important work needed on all the mod pages so this is a fairly low priority for us. Combining the creatures onto a single page has already been done - each episode has a summary page for the creatures. But we decided long ago it was still worth having a dedicated page for each creature as that gives us more room for additional details, like which levels the creature appears in, bugs in its behaviour, tricks for avoiding it, and so on. It also makes it easier to link to creatures - otherwise we'd have dozens of redirect pages anyway. But likewise we also decided that mods should not have individual pages for each creature, as there would be thousands of unnecessary pages then. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 19:45, 5 February 2013 (GMT)

:::::: I see, thanks. Why is there no page on [[Bobby Prince]]? Was anything decided on that? [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 06:11, 7 February 2013 (GMT)

::::::: No, there has been no decision there. If you have some information about Bobby Prince related to Commander Keen, by all means go ahead and create a page for him. But if you're looking for things to do, there are [[Vorticon Mods|lots of]] [[Galaxy Mods|mods]] that don't have pages created yet, and each page needs infoboxes, screenshots, level lists, etc. This is where most of the work is being done at the moment. Have a look at [[Episode Null]] for what we're aiming for on each mod's page. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 22:03, 8 February 2013 (GMT)

:::::::: I don't think pages on the creators of Keen should only contain information related to Keen. To my mind, a proper encyclopedic article about a person should give a complete view of their biography even if it's in a Keen encyclopedia, but anyway, we'll see about that when I have enough time to actually edit articles. Thanks for this discussion :) [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 07:46, 11 February 2013 (GMT)

::::::::: Of course you can include non Keen-related information, but since it's a Commander Keen encyclopaedia it makes sense to give a greater focus on things related to Commander Keen. Otherwise you may as well just link to the Wikipedia article instead! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 23:01, 15 February 2013 (GMT)

:::::::::: I would suggest just linking to the Wikipedia article of Bobby Prince and other creators of Keen when needed. There's no reason to repeat something that is stated better elsewhere. -- [[User:Flaose|Flaose]] 15:48, 20 February 2013 (GMT)

== Goodbye, Galaxy! ==

Why is there no punctuation in the title [[Goodbye Galaxy]]? [[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 14:47, 11 February 2013 (GMT)

: Very good point. I've renamed the page - thanks! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 23:01, 15 February 2013 (GMT)

== Moving of pages and their location on alphabetical lists ==

I notice when a page is moved, it remains in the same place as the old page would when listed in a category. This could be confusing, is there any way to circumvent it? -[[User:Levellass|Always so much to do!]] 09:22, 16 February 2013 (GMT)

: It shouldn't - do you have any examples? Keep in mind the category pages are cached so it can take a few page views before they all get updated after a rename. Certainly by 24 hours later they should all be correct and up to date. -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 21:27, 16 February 2013 (GMT)

== Delete some pages ==

[[:Category:Incompatible Patches]] is an invalid category, it seems that such pages should always have a small 'p' in patches due to the way the wiki works. This page is thus extra and should be deleted post haste. -[[User:Levellass|Always so much to do!]]
: The following pages can also be deleted, having no other pages linking to them and being the subject of double redirects; [[Moving Platform]], [[Patch:Keens Left]] and [[Patches:Game start]], results of poor syntax -[[User:Levellass|Always so much to do!]]

:: Done! -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 14:48, 20 March 2013 (GMT)

::: Many thanks, that clears things up a bit, I dislike superfluous pages. -[[User:Levellass|Always so much to do!]] 19:28, 20 March 2013 (GMT)
:::: Bleah, found yet another duplicated page, (Mind the original was very old and in need of updating.) Could you please remove [[Patch:Light Switch]], it has stuff on it, but nothing that isn't on the original page now. (Also there's only one page that links directly to the light switch page, so it was easy to make sure there's no links to the duplicate page.)

::::: Done. I've also made you an administrator of the wiki so you should be able to delete pages yourself in future (there's a new tab at the top of each page you will see once you log out and back in again.) -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 00:06, 2 April 2013 (GMT)

::::: Thanks, that should help, assuming I don;t make any more dumb mistakes like the mess you just fixed up. -[[User:Levellass|Always so much to do!]] 09:08, 8 April 2013 (GMT)

:::::: Hahaha no worries, everyone makes mistakes :-) -- [[User:Malvineous|Malvineous]] 11:56, 8 April 2013 (GMT)

== About my Cosmo Mod ==

Thanks for the heads-up. I didn't know there was a page at the Modding Wiki for Cosmo Mods. I'll make sure to put the mod article there next time.
[[User:T-Squared|T-Squared]] ([[User talk:T-Squared|talk]]) 22:32, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

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