Talk:XkyKeen4
The Berkeloid replacements were to be known as "Azores," and they would be found around the celery-stalk woods, chopping pieces off of the trees that would bounce around.
The Lick and Treasure Eater replacements were Vrungs, who were pretty horrible gender stereotypes. I'm glad I never finished them. The little lady versions would "clean up" the point items, while the thuggish man versions would swing their wrenches at you. They were the primary denizens of the planet, and had helped construct some of Mortimer's ships.
The Mimrocks were some sort of security system for the factories, while the Poison Slug replacements were spider-like things that would crawl through the ductwork inside the factories. I spent a while considering how to make the ductwork big enough for Keen to navigate without distracting from the look of the factories themselves.
- Thanks for telling us the names of the creatures and what they're meant to do, Xky Rauh! Anyway, I've been looking through the sprites, and I found sprites for replacements of the Skypest and Bounder. Before I upload images of them to the article, I was wondering if you had any names for them and wouldn't mind telling them.
- By the way, for future reference, whenever you reply in a talk page, you should sign your comment with four tildes, which will turn into your signature once you save it. Quillax (talk) 23:42, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- Let's see if I can figure out how to do it this time. :) The Bounder replacements never had a name. I knew they were platforms and could be used as platforms, and that's as far as I got in the editing process. I spent most of my time trying to figure out how to edit the Vrung swing distance and jump height. I don't even remember what the Skypest replacement was supposed to be. It almost looks like a fish! Haha. XkyRauh ([User talk:XkyRauh|talk]]) 09:00, 17 June 2019 (PST)
Creature names
AFAIK, Xky only confirmed the names "Vrung" and "Azore" (BTW, the patch file actually calls the Berkeloids Ozarks, not Azores). The name "Boson" appears to have come from that creature's use in Zoltan's Revenge. Where did "Xkyder", "Squipitor", "Jantaur" and "Security Statue" originate from? Should the page only use names that were officially named by Xky? Pandakeen (talk) 02:31, 12 March 2023 (GMT)
- You brought up some good questions, Pandakeen! According to the page history, Nisaba added all of the creature names (Bounder and Skypest replacements aside, both of whom are unnamed) into the XkyKeen4 article, including the ones that weren't confirmed here. I'm not sure if she made them up or Xky confirmed the names somewhere else, whether publicly or privately with Nisaba (like in a Discord chat). I typed "Xkyder", "Squipitor", "Jantaur", and "Boson" into the search form on PCKF and K:M, but I only got one irrelevant result. Perhaps we should ask Xky Rauh (and Nisaba?) about those names.
- Your question on whether we should only use names by Xky (or, in general, the mods' creators) reminds me of a couple three-and-a-half year old questions that never got answered. (We could also be asking about some of the characters and levels with unofficial names from the official Keen games, like Blue Bird and Emerald City, but I'd say those are at least justified by having their own articles.) Quillax (talk) 09:19, 12 March 2023 (GMT)
- XkyRauh and I had thrown a few ideas back and forth via Discord some time ago. The names "Jantaur" and "Squipitor" came up. Rather noncommittal, though. Also, I remember XkyRauh mentioning that the Mimrock was a security statue. So more of a characterization/description than a real name. I honestly have no idea where "Xkyder" came from.
- --Nisaba (talk) 19:16, 12 March 2023 (GMT)
- Can confirm, chat history with Nisaba from 2018 (which I have no memory of! Yikes!) that I thought "Jauntaur is neat because it sounds like Janitor." Really don't think Jauntaur or Squiptor or Xkyder or Boson should be official names for these things. They were abandoned for a reason... XkyRauh (talk) 15:40, 13 March 2023 (GMT)
- Thanks for coming here to clarify and sort things out, Xky and Nisaba! I just gave the Ozark its real name. Though, I'm not exactly sure if using "XkyKeen4 Actor" would be the best way to label unnamed actors. Part of me is thinking if it should be something more clear like "Unknown actor name" or "Unnamed actor", like how unnamed mod levels are treated (see example). That's probably better off discussed in the ActorImage talk page, however.
- Quillax (talk) 03:51, 14 March 2023 (GMT)
- @Quillax, your objections seem reasonable to me. I agree with you that we should be equally consistent with unnamed actors/objects/items and the like. "Unnamed actor" seems to be the right description. I'll leave a note on the ActorImage talk page as well.
- --Nisaba (talk) 09:00, 14 March 2023 (GMT)