User talk:Levellass

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Hi Levelass - any reponse to this? -- Malvineous 07:02, 13 July 2007 (GMT)

No, I have even less idea now what bug or not I thought they had, sorry. --Levellass 11:05, 12 July 2010 (GMT)

Edit summaries

Hey Levellass - when you edit a page, could you please put something in the summary field before submitting? Doing that makes it a lot easier to see what's going on when browsing the Recent Changes list. It doesn't have to be much, something like "More info", "Typo", "Spelling" or whatever is fine. -- Malvineous 03:11, 28 January 2007 (GMT)

Sorry, I keep forgetting. (message written by Levellass a few minutes ago) --Shadow Master 18:42, 6 July 2007 (GMT)

Signing messages

Also try to use the toolbar button with the signature icon in it for signing your talk page messages before submitting your replies, so that we know who wrote that interesting paragraph. Or put the following at the end of your messages manually if you have trouble with the wiki edit toolbar:


Just a suggestion. --Shadow Master 16:25, 10 July 2007 (GMT)

Levellass- PLEASE sign messages in talk pages-just use four tildes! Like this- --~~~~--Xterra1 17:33, 11 July 2007 (GMT)

Nah, stuff it, I like to annoy and confuse and make things worse for everyone.--Levellass 17:38, 11 July 2007 (GMT)
Little joker.....--Xterra1 17:42, 11 July 2007 (GMT)
Actually, I only just figured out how the ---- you do this stuff, there are too many buttons, all I can do is write!--Levellass 17:45, 11 July 2007 (GMT) expletives!--Xterra1 17:47, 11 July 2007 (GMT)
Gosh, what did I write? I'm sure it was just 'hell' I'm so sorry!--Levellass 17:49, 11 July 2007 (GMT)
I had to blank it out, rules are rules.--Xterra1 18:14, 11 July 2007 (GMT)
Wow, who knew? I suppose that's right, you Americans are real stiff when it comes to religion. This is why I don't post much.--Levellass 18:23, 11 July 2007 (GMT)
Not religion,wiki rules!--Xterra1 18:55, 11 July 2007 (GMT)
Well this wiki is run by an Australian, with British and Chilean moderators, so feel free to post some more ;-) (btw I wouldn't consider that word an expletive, but each to their own I guess.) -- Malvineous 01:21, 12 July 2007 (GMT)

Automatic syntax highlighting

Hi Levellass - I just realised you seem to be manually entering in all the <font> tags to syntax highlight the patches! This isn't necessary, you can just enclose each patch in <patch title="xyz"></patch> tags which will take care of the highlighting for you (see Patch:About id for how it comes out.) Since this is a custom add-on to the wiki, if it doesn't work properly or you want additional features (like being able to highlight certain bytes) just let me know and I will add it. -- Malvineous 08:08, 12 July 2010 (GMT)

Patch basics

Hey Levellass, I've just created a page on the basics of reading patches, specifically your patches. I was wondering if you could look it over and fix any mistakes or outright lies that I may have made; my knowledge of patching is extremely weak (for example I have no idea why some of your 16-bit integers are blue and some are orange, I'm sure the difference is important, I just can't figure it out). Thanks! -Flaose 07:05, 14 March 2011 (GMT)

Page naming

Hi Levellass - when you create pages with a note in brackets, can you please put a space before the bracket? I know it's only minor, but it looks weird when the universal wiki standard is "Pagename (info)" and half your pages are "Pagename(info)" ;-) -- Malvineous 04:45, 2 April 2011 (GMT)

Hey, I'd notcied that, I've done t three times I'm aware of but wasn't quite sure what to do. It shouldn't happen in future. --Levellass 09:02, 2 April 2011 (GMT)

Blank lines before headings

Hi Levellass - could you please try to avoid adding an extra space before the == section headings == in each page? It causes a large gap to appear before the heading which goes against the standard MediaWiki style. If you think the headings are too close together, you can edit your own custom style to put more space between them, and this will affect all pages without needing to do any editing. Thanks! -- Malvineous 13:54, 19 August 2012 (GMT)

Hey there! I was going by our office's style of doing things, one line space between paragraphs, two between paragraphs and headings. I was unaware that this was not wiki policy. Will all the pages be reverted? --05:48, 20 August 2012 (GMT)
I reverted those changes on the most recent pages, but if you could remove the extra lines as you see them that would be great. The problem is that the wiki software automatically inserts extra space between paragraphs and before headings, according to the site style (the idea being if you don't like it, you adjust the site style and you don't need to edit any pages.) Because of this, the wiki software treats extra blank lines as if they were paragraphs, and puts extra space around them when generating the HTML view of each article. By putting two blank lines before a heading, you are effectively putting an empty, invisible paragraph before each heading (which has its own space around it, even though it's invisible.) Going by your office style, this is like putting three blank lines before each heading (the normal two, plus an extra one before the invisible paragraph.) Just as you'd be going against your office style by putting three blank lines before a heading, likewise putting two lines before a wiki heading is going against the wiki style for exactly the same reason. I hope this helps explain it! Malvineous 01:01, 30 August 2012 (GMT)
Righto, got it now! I shall endeavor to remove any double lines from the main wiki pages as I stumble across them. I imagine the problem would have been lessened if more people edited the wiki. --Always so much to do! 01:12, 30 August 2012 (GMT)
Quite possibly - and thanks! On that note, I have to say, I'm continually amazed by how much work you put in to the patch pages. It's very impressive. -- Malvineous 11:51, 30 August 2012 (GMT)

Source of creatures' names

Hello. I'm new here but I hope to be a good contributor :) What I'd like to know is where the names of the creatures from Keen Dreams and Keen 6 were found because Keen Dreams doesn't seem to list them all while Keen 6 doesn't even contain a help section and some of the names mentioned in Keen 6 user manual are different from the names listed here. Can you help? Saluton 13:22, 3 February 2013 (GMT)

That's a good question and there is no one clear answer. Some names like the Treasure Eater were confirmed via emails to Id staff (Mostly Tom Hall.) Others were taken from the game manuals while still others are community lore or taken from external sources. This seems to be quite a problematic issue and I think a topic on the PCKF tracking down all creature name origins and thus letting us insert citations for them (And correct article names where necessary.) is in order.
Before you answered, I already have spoken to Malvineous about it. Thanks. Saluton 05:22, 5 February 2013 (GMT)

Keen Meets the Meats

Hello Levellass, could you add the number of levels to the Keen Meets the Meats article, please? --Grandy02 (talk) 12:19, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Nobody knows? Really? Good heavens I could print out every single level's bitmap. -Levellass (talk) 01:06, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Renaming Tutorials

Open question to admins, bureaucrats and free time editors. Details over here: Renaming/moving all Tutorials for better ease

Ceilick is ok with this idea, what about you?

Sounds good to me. -Levellass (talk) 02:10, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Ultra Hard game patch side effect

Hey. In your (Keen 4 whatever for now) ultra hard game patch the side effect is that you can only save on the map. If you save in (any) level, I get uncached sprite error. --Szemigi (talk) 20:05, 14 April 2019 (UTC)


Hi Levellass, a while ago Nisaba wrote a message on the KeenWave talk page, which refers to a Keen: Modding post. Maybe you didn't notice it at the time. The most recent version of KeenWave is missing. Grandy02 (talk) 14:35, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Missing Blegd & Smeeg webcomic

By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Levellord and you were avid readers of Blegd and Smeeg back then. Do you happen to have any of the comics? Almost everything is gone, except for the 1st, 11th and last episode. Grandy02 (talk) 14:35, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

I don't have anything, but Levellord was friends with the creator and she says she has a folder of about 20 images she can send me. What do you want done with them? -Levellass (talk) 12:48, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
I would like to make them available to the general public again. On this page, for example. However, I'm not so keen on doing so without Galaxieretter's permission. It would be easier if he just added them to his DeviantArt gallery. I wrote to his two known e-mail addresses (including the one available here) months ago, but didn't receive a response. Maybe he wants them to remain offline (though many other old works are still available) or he doesn't care or is just too busy. Could Levellord ask Gal, or is there no contact at all now? Anyway, it's good to know that someone still has the comics, thanks for the info. --Grandy02 (talk) 22:21, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
As far as both Levellord and I were aware he was dead, certainly it seems like his deviantart page is very sparse. We have no contact with him so can't help you there. If or when you want the images I now have them, but I don't hold out much hope for getting into contact with their creator. -Levellass (talk) 21:57, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I sent you an email. --Grandy02 (talk) 20:06, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Keen 3 - light switch off: costume palette problem

Hey, Lass! I'm using this patch right now in Keen 3:

Make a new palette for lights off: %patch $19824 $1F $1F $1F $1F $1F $1F $1F $1F $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 $00 %patch $6C6C $0004W

The problem is that it gives 'Null pointer assignment' error. Could you tell me how to prevent it?--Szemigi (talk) 17:56, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Patch formatting

Hey just a heads up when I upgraded the MediaWiki software the CKPatch formatting addon stopped working. I replaced it with a more widely used syntax formatting addon which was already in use on the ModdingWiki anyway, and found assembly language to give "good enough" highlighting of the CKPatch samples. I did a bulk search and replace of all the patches so hopefully they have all been updated. -- Malvineous (talk) 06:47, 6 February 2021 (GMT)